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Has the BBC ever lied to support the political objectives of the British Government? Just saying, it's a war, Britain and the rest of NATO are sending very adv

Has the BBC ever lied to support the political objectives of the British Government? Just saying, it's a war, Britain and the rest of NATO are sending very advanced weapons to Ukraine and there are extremely big stakes here, so I wouldn't necessarily fault them for doing their patriotic duty and lying their asses off, or applying the lightest of all fact checks to encourage people to hate the Russians. It's all in our national best interest in the long run for Russia to lose this war, and if thinking Russia is "Nazi Germany with nukes", instead of being run by "Uncle Joe" and Beria being the head of the Russian equivalent of the FBI, as the March 29 1943 Life Magazine puff piece on Stalin's Regime put it, then great.[3] Btw, if you can get ahold of it, this Life Magazine is a marvel of absurdly positively spun propaganda. Recently, we had the Nayirah Testimony[1] that was widely reported as true prior to the first gulf war, and the well known weapons of mass destruction present in Iraq testimony before the second one. There was also the Dr Rola testimony that later turned out to be fake that was widely reported during the Syrian civil war[2]. Anyway, it is possible to want Russia to lose this war and simultaneously be aware that one's own government has a good reason to, and perhaps is lying and exaggerating for war propaganda purposes. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony [2]https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Dr_Rola https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Dr_Rola [3]https://books.google.com.vn/books/content?id=A1AEAAAAMBAJ&hl=vi&pg=PA40&img=1&zoom=3&sig=ACfU3U3KDKmc1lcuDvvZeIdsxe-HjHBS6g&w=1280 https://books.google.com.vn/books/content?id=A1AEAAAAMBAJ&hl...

silexia 5y ago
Have the Russians ever lied[1] to the public employing fake accounts to pretend to be someone else? [1] https://www.propublica.org/article/infamous-russian-troll-farm-appears-to-be-source-of-anti-ukraine-propaganda https://www.propublica.org/article/infamous-russian-troll-fa...
csee 5y ago
This isn't like [1] due to multiple independent lines of corroborating evidence, including multiple eye-witness accounts, photographic evidence, and satellite imagery from two weeks ago that corroborates this evidence. It is fine to reserve judgement where there is no good evidence, but that's not what you're doing by comparing it to [1]. The null should be that the Kremlin is lying, especially in the context of fairly solid lines of evidence, and given their recent history of lying about everything and denying everything, even that which we can observe with our eyes (e.g. Lavrov's "We are not invading Ukraine" -- said in March).

silexia 5y ago

Have the Russians ever lied[1] to the public employing fake accounts to pretend to be someone else? [1] https://www.propublica.org/article/infamous-russian-troll-farm-appears-to-be-source-of-anti-ukraine-propaganda https://www.propublica.org/article/infamous-russian-troll-fa...

csee 5y ago

This isn't like [1] due to multiple independent lines of corroborating evidence, including multiple eye-witness accounts, photographic evidence, and satellite imagery from two weeks ago that corroborates this evidence. It is fine to reserve judgement where there is no good evidence, but that's not what you're doing by comparing it to [1]. The null should be that the Kremlin is lying, especially in the context of fairly solid lines of evidence, and given their recent history of lying about everything and denying everything, even that which we can observe with our eyes (e.g. Lavrov's "We are not invading Ukraine" -- said in March).