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If a european company offered a reliable and reasonably priced hetzner-based "cloud" with managed k8s, managed databases, object storage, networking and maybe

by kall 4y ago

If a european company offered a reliable and reasonably priced hetzner-based "cloud" with managed k8s, managed databases, object storage, networking and maybe some FaaS system I would use that in a heartbeat. I'd try to build it if I had the right technical/sysadmin background. Seems like a realistic task for someone with a small, scrappy team who does.

MaKey 4y ago
I thought about building such a thing and have the right background. What do you think would be a good service to start with? I thought about k8s and then go on from there.
- kall 4y ago
  Yeah I guess k8s would be the best start, if you want to achieve aws-style features without a ton of development resources. I know barely enough to use k8s as an application developer though, so maybe not. Adding MiniO and a simplified, pre-configured Knative experience would be my next step, because everyone (including me) seems to love Google Cloud Run. For networking not sure if you can/should integrate Hetzner's native networking and load balancers or should do some kind of overlay network like fly.io. For managed databases and other services it would be great for you if first and third party "in your cloud" solutions like Aiven, Elastic Cloud, Snowflake etc would support hetzner but I've never seen it. Fly.io seems like a nice model of offering semi-managed databases. With those things in place, and hetzner's few regions, some costumers might need Cloudflare in front of their services, but that might not be a bad thing. Is Hetzner in "Bandwidth Alliance"?
config_yml 4y ago
It seems reasonable that Hetzner will eventually offer all of that, but they're taking their sweet time with it. Meanwhile, Scaleway offers many of these things (obviously not Hetzner-based).
- kall 4y ago
  I feel like Hetzner is great at what it does: reliable, reputable, affordable server hosting. I imagine it to be a company full of top notch, old school sysadmins. Not sure they have the developer focus (?) to build an appealing AWS/Scaleway style service.
  - sneusse 4y ago
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM Fun to watch their DC :)
    - ksec 4y ago
      Interesting they are not actually doing Server Rack and Server units in U but actual good old fashion desktop.
julienfr112 4y ago
Scaleway ?
iampims 4y ago
That’s exactly what Scaleway offers.

by kall 4y ago

MaKey 4y ago

I thought about building such a thing and have the right background. What do you think would be a good service to start with? I thought about k8s and then go on from there.

kall 4y ago
Yeah I guess k8s would be the best start, if you want to achieve aws-style features without a ton of development resources. I know barely enough to use k8s as an application developer though, so maybe not. Adding MiniO and a simplified, pre-configured Knative experience would be my next step, because everyone (including me) seems to love Google Cloud Run. For networking not sure if you can/should integrate Hetzner's native networking and load balancers or should do some kind of overlay network like fly.io. For managed databases and other services it would be great for you if first and third party "in your cloud" solutions like Aiven, Elastic Cloud, Snowflake etc would support hetzner but I've never seen it. Fly.io seems like a nice model of offering semi-managed databases. With those things in place, and hetzner's few regions, some costumers might need Cloudflare in front of their services, but that might not be a bad thing. Is Hetzner in "Bandwidth Alliance"?

config_yml 4y ago

It seems reasonable that Hetzner will eventually offer all of that, but they're taking their sweet time with it. Meanwhile, Scaleway offers many of these things (obviously not Hetzner-based).

kall 4y ago
I feel like Hetzner is great at what it does: reliable, reputable, affordable server hosting. I imagine it to be a company full of top notch, old school sysadmins. Not sure they have the developer focus (?) to build an appealing AWS/Scaleway style service.
- sneusse 4y ago
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM Fun to watch their DC :)
  - ksec 4y ago
    Interesting they are not actually doing Server Rack and Server units in U but actual good old fashion desktop.

julienfr112 4y ago

Scaleway ?

iampims 4y ago

That’s exactly what Scaleway offers.