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> Give teachers a base salary, plus $X for every student of theirs that meets grade standards at the end of the school year. Wouldn't this cause misaligned inc

> Give teachers a base salary, plus $X for every student of theirs that meets grade standards at the end of the school year. Wouldn't this cause misaligned incentives leading to teachers going out of their way to game the grade standards, similar to what has happened with No Child Left Behind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act#Gaming_the_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act#Gamin... https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/gaming-the-nclb-system/2007/11 https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/gaming-the-nclb-syste... https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/opinion-educator-cheating-on-no-child-left-behind-tests/2006/04 https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/opinion-educator-ch... Not that there probably shouldn't be experimentation with compensation to create incentives, but $X per head is overly simplistic and is the sort of thing that gets gamed all of the time.

WalterBright 5y ago
I know it doesn't boil down to a sentence. Actually implementing it would be more complex. Will it be gamed? People will surely try. People try to game the SATs all the time, with some small success. But the SATs are still very useful and effective. The bottom line is, will better results be achieved with this method? Almost certainly. P.S. Much of the cheating from on the NCLB system was the people who were affected by the test results were the ones administering the test. Of course that won't work. An independent organization has to administer the tests.
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  > The bottom line is, will better results be achieved with this method? Almost certainly. That's a tautology, though. It seems like this is a hypothesis that should be put to the test.
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    It gets put to the test every day in the free market.

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> Give teachers a base salary, plus $X for every student of theirs that meets grade standards at the end of the school year. Wouldn't this cause misaligned inc

by Apocryphon 5y ago

WalterBright 5y ago
I know it doesn't boil down to a sentence. Actually implementing it would be more complex. Will it be gamed? People will surely try. People try to game the SATs all the time, with some small success. But the SATs are still very useful and effective. The bottom line is, will better results be achieved with this method? Almost certainly. P.S. Much of the cheating from on the NCLB system was the people who were affected by the test results were the ones administering the test. Of course that won't work. An independent organization has to administer the tests.
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  > The bottom line is, will better results be achieved with this method? Almost certainly. That's a tautology, though. It seems like this is a hypothesis that should be put to the test.
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    It gets put to the test every day in the free market.