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This is an incorrect interpretation of what I pointed out. I pointed out that Jack Dorsey worded his tweet in a way that invalidates work of his former team and
by productceo 5y ago
This is an incorrect interpretation of what I pointed out. I pointed out that Jack Dorsey worded his tweet in a way that invalidates work of his former team and brings their morale down. You are either following a slippery slope or setting up a straw man in characterizing my comment as suggesting that Jack Dorsey, or any other leaders, should have remained silent.
An effective leader of an organization will find and fix problems.
Managers far less experienced than Jack Dorsey, in companies larger and smaller than Twitter, are effectively performing this today without hurting morale of the organizations.
I hope you don't feel defensive in response to my comments. I wish to make a more accurate understanding available for you to grab. Whether you grab it is your choice and affects me in no ways.
- stale2002 5y ago> in a way that invalidates work of his former team But if the problems are real, then it is good to point out those problems. You cannot just ignore problems, because it hurts people's feelings. If people are doing bad things, that cause problems, then yes their work should be invalidated, on the basis of the problems that they cause. If you do bad things, then yes you should feel bad about the bad things that you did. Because bad things are bad, and you should feel bad about them. And you are letting everyone else down, if you refuse to condemn bad things that are happening. You absolutely should feel bad about doing bad things, and you should feel like you let everyone else down, because you did those bad things. > without hurting morale of the organizations. If you hurt other people, and do bad things, then you absolutely should feel bad and you absolutely should have your morale hurt. Because you did a bad thing. It is good for you to feel bad about doing bad things. And if you don't then you are letting everyone else down.
- productceo 5y agoYou are citing words from my comment, but you are debating against imaginary comments which you invented. I already clarified in my previous comment that what you are debating against is unrelated to my comments, and I have no further clarifications I can add to help.
- stale2002 5y agoYou objected to people's work being "invalidated". But you did not respond to the idea that if someone's work caused bad things to happen, then it should be invalidated. That is directly related to your objection of work being invalided, which is actually not a problem because bad things should be invalidated.
- productceo 5y agoCompanies fix past mistakes all the time without publicly denouncing the team's previous work. Apple brought back several ports in the new MacBook Pro series after killing them several years ago. This was done in a confident manner under excellent management and public communication.
- stale2002 5y ago> without publicly denouncing the team's previous work. But I don't see a problem with denouncing bad things that companies have done in the past. If a company caused lots of problems, then it should deserve the condemnation for the bad things that it caused. It deserves the condemnation because it caused bad things to happen.
- productceo 5y agoI disagree that merits outweighed the demerits in the case we are discussing here, but I respect your viewpoint.