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Only in Amsterdam inside Netherlands after waiting a long line. At the same time Hungarians in Romania could vote by mail and the government was using Fidesz to

Only in Amsterdam inside Netherlands after waiting a long line. At the same time Hungarians in Romania could vote by mail and the government was using Fidesz to collect the votes and threw out votes of the opposition. The soft dictatorship works very well, Hungary will go even more down in the future. I'll probably leave Hungary before Hungary leaves EU/NATO and gets into a war.

throwawaylinux 5y ago
Voting by mail is insecure? This is very troubling.
- xiphias2 5y ago
  It's not simply voting by mail, it's voting by mail by not even using official the post office in Romania. I know that you're probably refering to US, but I don't make any comment about it, because I don't live there, so I don't know what really happened in US. In Romania some people found partially burned ballots with only opposition votes next to a garbage bin before the elections ended. The proofs of voter fraud couldn't have been clearer. It's supposed to be a scandal, but nothing will happen about it. https://hungarytoday.hu/discarded-burnt-postal-ballots-scandals-postal-voting-hungary-fidesz-opposition-rmdsz/ https://hungarytoday.hu/discarded-burnt-postal-ballots-scand...
  - throwawaylinux 5y ago
    Well that is just an isolated case. There is simply no evidence to support the baseless conspiracy theory that postal voting results in widespread fraud. This has been well established by the experts and journalists.
    - bigDinosaur 5y ago
      Clearly the quality of the audit matters and that differs massively between countries. Nobody disputes the validity and integrity of postal voting in Australia for example.
    - rendall 5y ago
      > There is simply no evidence to support the baseless conspiracy theory that postal voting results in widespread fraud. You're applying US culture-war stuff to another country and culture.
aetherson 5y ago
Who exactly would Hungary get into a war with? It borders Slovakia (EU member), Austria (EU member), Croatia (EU member), Serbia, Romania (EU member), Ukraine, and Poland (EU member). Is it your contention that it's going to invade the EU? Or Serbia? Or Ukraine? Or is Hungary going to use its awesome force projection capabilities to get into a war with a country that it doesn't border?
- mastermedo 5y ago
  “Beat them with sarcasm, not arguments” — James Looney

throwawaylinux 5y ago

Voting by mail is insecure? This is very troubling.

xiphias2 5y ago
It's not simply voting by mail, it's voting by mail by not even using official the post office in Romania. I know that you're probably refering to US, but I don't make any comment about it, because I don't live there, so I don't know what really happened in US. In Romania some people found partially burned ballots with only opposition votes next to a garbage bin before the elections ended. The proofs of voter fraud couldn't have been clearer. It's supposed to be a scandal, but nothing will happen about it. https://hungarytoday.hu/discarded-burnt-postal-ballots-scandals-postal-voting-hungary-fidesz-opposition-rmdsz/ https://hungarytoday.hu/discarded-burnt-postal-ballots-scand...
- throwawaylinux 5y ago
  Well that is just an isolated case. There is simply no evidence to support the baseless conspiracy theory that postal voting results in widespread fraud. This has been well established by the experts and journalists.
  - bigDinosaur 5y ago
    Clearly the quality of the audit matters and that differs massively between countries. Nobody disputes the validity and integrity of postal voting in Australia for example.
  - rendall 5y ago
    > There is simply no evidence to support the baseless conspiracy theory that postal voting results in widespread fraud. You're applying US culture-war stuff to another country and culture.

aetherson 5y ago

Who exactly would Hungary get into a war with? It borders Slovakia (EU member), Austria (EU member), Croatia (EU member), Serbia, Romania (EU member), Ukraine, and Poland (EU member). Is it your contention that it's going to invade the EU? Or Serbia? Or Ukraine? Or is Hungary going to use its awesome force projection capabilities to get into a war with a country that it doesn't border?

mastermedo 5y ago
“Beat them with sarcasm, not arguments” — James Looney