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Why does he need to give his money away before building something "ethical"? He did build Square, which was inspired by a neighbor in his hometown who had diffi

Why does he need to give his money away before building something "ethical"? He did build Square, which was inspired by a neighbor in his hometown who had difficulty selling artwork. At least in my neck of the woods Square is everywhere and helps small business owners make a living.

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specialist 5y ago
Penance. There is no forgiveness without sufficient contrition.
- shanusmagnus 5y ago
  Proof of work :)
- auslegung 5y ago
  > There is no forgiveness without sufficient contrition. Why? Says who? If I may assume you’re Catholic based on this, can you show me where in Catholic teaching we (non inclusive “we” as I’m not Catholic) are to hold outsiders to the same standard as fellow Catholics? If you’re not Catholic, then by what right do you, or does anyone, withhold forgiveness? Forgiveness, in the sense from your quote, can only be given or withheld by a higher authority. Who is the higher authority withholding or giving forgiveness to Jack Dorsey here? And what do you know about this higher authority’s intent to give or withhold forgiveness? Forgiveness, in the interpersonal sense, is not for the offender but for the offended, and withholding forgiveness in this interpersonal sense is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies. In other words, withholding forgiveness is utterly absurd. (I do not say it’s easy to forgive, just that refusing is absurd.)
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Mindwipe 5y ago
> At least in my neck of the woods Square is everywhere and helps small business owners make a living. Unless they're sex workers or queer artists, who are banned from the platform.
- jonathantf2 5y ago
  Fairly sure it's the card processors dictating that, not Square.
  - Mindwipe 4y ago
    > Fairly sure it's the card processors dictating that, not Square. Not really, no. The card processors hoist a bunch of restrictions, arbitrary and stupid, on adult businesses, but they do ultimately not have a flat ban on transactions with them. That was Square's decision.
needlefish 5y ago
"I regret the way I made all these millions" is completely hollow because if he could go back in the past I am sure nothing changes. I don't blame him personally on any level but you don't get to have it both ways. You don't get to profit at this level at the expense of society and then make an after the fact moral claim when you try to fix the damage you helped cause.

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specialist 5y ago

Penance. There is no forgiveness without sufficient contrition.

shanusmagnus 5y ago
Proof of work :)
auslegung 5y ago
> There is no forgiveness without sufficient contrition. Why? Says who? If I may assume you’re Catholic based on this, can you show me where in Catholic teaching we (non inclusive “we” as I’m not Catholic) are to hold outsiders to the same standard as fellow Catholics? If you’re not Catholic, then by what right do you, or does anyone, withhold forgiveness? Forgiveness, in the sense from your quote, can only be given or withheld by a higher authority. Who is the higher authority withholding or giving forgiveness to Jack Dorsey here? And what do you know about this higher authority’s intent to give or withhold forgiveness? Forgiveness, in the interpersonal sense, is not for the offender but for the offended, and withholding forgiveness in this interpersonal sense is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies. In other words, withholding forgiveness is utterly absurd. (I do not say it’s easy to forgive, just that refusing is absurd.)
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Mindwipe 5y ago

> At least in my neck of the woods Square is everywhere and helps small business owners make a living. Unless they're sex workers or queer artists, who are banned from the platform.

jonathantf2 5y ago
Fairly sure it's the card processors dictating that, not Square.
- Mindwipe 4y ago
  > Fairly sure it's the card processors dictating that, not Square. Not really, no. The card processors hoist a bunch of restrictions, arbitrary and stupid, on adult businesses, but they do ultimately not have a flat ban on transactions with them. That was Square's decision.

needlefish 5y ago

"I regret the way I made all these millions" is completely hollow because if he could go back in the past I am sure nothing changes. I don't blame him personally on any level but you don't get to have it both ways. You don't get to profit at this level at the expense of society and then make an after the fact moral claim when you try to fix the damage you helped cause.