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> yet another start menu > yet more ads > requires modern hardware > more surprise updates breaking things Win11 not as popular? Imagine my shock and dismay

by 0des 5y ago

> yet another start menu > yet more ads > requires modern hardware > more surprise updates breaking things Win11 not as popular? Imagine my shock and dismay. A sizable portion of my non-tech peers had bad experiences and one by one switched to Linux and the elder two switched to MacOS. Frankly I am baffled.

Aerroon 5y ago
I'm actually glad that they had the modern hardware requirement. It means that Microsoft can't suddenly surprise update me into Windows 11.
- elorant 5y ago
  I have modern hardware but I chose to disable certain bios features for exactly this reason. Now Win10 informs me that my PC is not Win11 capable, and that's a thing less to worry.
melling 5y ago
Me too. I’ve been reading comments like this since the Year of Linux first began. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3038d4/when_was_the_first_year_of_the_linux_desktop/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3038d4/when_was_the_... Image my shock to find out Windows still has 87% market share. I’m still unhappy that they took my Sun workstation and gave me a Windows PC.
- 0des 5y ago
  Brenda in accounting isn't going to run Ubuntu even with the cute animal names. Until that happens,there will be stacks upon stacks of windows optiplexes being sold every day. Also nobody misses sloaris. I'm going to chalk that remark up to a misfired punchline.
  - hotpotamus 5y ago
    I doubt Brenda would care much if she was running something like RHEL for work since it can run a browser as good as anything. I assume the main thing keeping Windows around in her case is all the IT endpoint management stuff built around the MS ecosystem. Personally, I'd probably be all in on Ubuntu or some derivative if not for gaming.
    - loloquwowndueo 5y ago
      In my experience people balk when they realize they’re not using Windows or Office. I’ve literally had someone sit in front of a Linux computer with OpenOffice and work fine on it until they realized “hey the title bar says OpenOffice Calc - it’s not excel! I don’t know how to use this!” Despite the fact they were using it just fine. At this point no amount of convincing made them give it another try - they’d just cross arms until they were put back in front of their known, trusty Windows computer. So I agree they don’t care but there’s also the “I’m not trained for this” fallacy.
      - hotpotamus 5y ago
        I was wondering how much native MS Office matters these days. I've been using OWA and Office 365 via browser for the better part of a decade on a Linux workstation because that's the compromise it took, but the experience was never good. I wonder if native would make much difference.
        kyriakos 5y ago
        For basic usage the browser variants are good enough but Excel application is significantly more powerful. If you are an excel power user there is no non native alternative at the moment.
        0des 5y ago
        Kyriakos Grizzly?
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  - nonamenoslogan 5y ago
    I, for one, genuinely miss Solaris--though when I think hard about it, I miss Sun hardware with SPARC in it more than Solaris itself.
    - 0des 5y ago
      Nobody misses Solaris, why are you trying to play me
samtheDamned 5y ago
> requires modern hardware *in a time when new hardware was so freakishly expensive that 4-5 year old hardware was being sold for more than it's original MSRP
- LinAGKar 5y ago
  And even hardware capable of it often has TPM disabled in BIOS by default

by 0des 5y ago

Aerroon 5y ago

I'm actually glad that they had the modern hardware requirement. It means that Microsoft can't suddenly surprise update me into Windows 11.

elorant 5y ago
I have modern hardware but I chose to disable certain bios features for exactly this reason. Now Win10 informs me that my PC is not Win11 capable, and that's a thing less to worry.

melling 5y ago

Me too. I’ve been reading comments like this since the Year of Linux first began. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3038d4/when_was_the_first_year_of_the_linux_desktop/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3038d4/when_was_the_... Image my shock to find out Windows still has 87% market share. I’m still unhappy that they took my Sun workstation and gave me a Windows PC.

0des 5y ago
Brenda in accounting isn't going to run Ubuntu even with the cute animal names. Until that happens,there will be stacks upon stacks of windows optiplexes being sold every day. Also nobody misses sloaris. I'm going to chalk that remark up to a misfired punchline.
- hotpotamus 5y ago
  I doubt Brenda would care much if she was running something like RHEL for work since it can run a browser as good as anything. I assume the main thing keeping Windows around in her case is all the IT endpoint management stuff built around the MS ecosystem. Personally, I'd probably be all in on Ubuntu or some derivative if not for gaming.
  - loloquwowndueo 5y ago
    In my experience people balk when they realize they’re not using Windows or Office. I’ve literally had someone sit in front of a Linux computer with OpenOffice and work fine on it until they realized “hey the title bar says OpenOffice Calc - it’s not excel! I don’t know how to use this!” Despite the fact they were using it just fine. At this point no amount of convincing made them give it another try - they’d just cross arms until they were put back in front of their known, trusty Windows computer. So I agree they don’t care but there’s also the “I’m not trained for this” fallacy.
    - hotpotamus 5y ago
      I was wondering how much native MS Office matters these days. I've been using OWA and Office 365 via browser for the better part of a decade on a Linux workstation because that's the compromise it took, but the experience was never good. I wonder if native would make much difference.
      - kyriakos 5y ago
        For basic usage the browser variants are good enough but Excel application is significantly more powerful. If you are an excel power user there is no non native alternative at the moment.
        0des 5y ago
        Kyriakos Grizzly?
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- nonamenoslogan 5y ago
  I, for one, genuinely miss Solaris--though when I think hard about it, I miss Sun hardware with SPARC in it more than Solaris itself.
  - 0des 5y ago
    Nobody misses Solaris, why are you trying to play me

samtheDamned 5y ago

> requires modern hardware *in a time when new hardware was so freakishly expensive that 4-5 year old hardware was being sold for more than it's original MSRP

LinAGKar 5y ago
And even hardware capable of it often has TPM disabled in BIOS by default