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Email is still there, still decentralized in principle (which matters). Why not build identity on top of it, extend the protocol. And while you re at it, add no
by jdrc 5y ago
Email is still there, still decentralized in principle (which matters). Why not build identity on top of it, extend the protocol. And while you re at it, add notifications, which are a major reason why people use phones. Not professional enough for "corporates"? who cares
- bklaasen 5y agoHave you explored Delta Chat? https://delta.chat/en/ https://delta.chat/en/
- jdrc 5y agono but yea, something like that
- jokethrowaway 5y agoEmail is less and less decentralised. Unless you send email as a big provider, you'll risk being blocked.
- jdrc 5y agothey block it because they can. if more and more (important) people hosted their own mail, blockers wouldnt block so easily. Email is still in principle decentralized
- Vladimof 5y agoWhat I don't like about email is that it is required to create accounts almost everywhere... Reddit and HN are two exceptions. And now Google requires a phone number to create an email? I know that there are services like https://www.gmailnator.com https://www.gmailnator.com and https://www.receivesms.org/us-numbers/us/ https://www.receivesms.org/us-numbers/us/, but it doesn't always work.
- majewsky 5y agoThere exist mail providers other than Gmail (allegedly).
- Vladimof 5y agoYou can also host your own, maybe. I just don't like the way all major providers are heading.
- everforward 5y agoThis is a common refrain when discussing email, but modern, useful email has an exceptionally high maintenance overhead, primarily due to anti-spam features. Running a basic email server is relatively easy. Running a mail server with good deliverability guarantees is very hard. You can end up blacklisted just because someone in the same IP block as you is sending spam. Your only solution will be to change IPs repeatedly until you get one with a good reputation, up until someone starts spamming again. You can be blacklisted because your domain or IP simply don't have enough historical data to determine whether it's likely spam. Often there won't be a clear answer to why you're blacklisted. If Gmail sends your stuff to the spam box, good luck getting Google to tell you why. It's not insurmountable; you can do it, but be prepared to invest an absurd amount of time setting it up and trying to set up automated delivery tests to make sure you haven't been blacklisted since you set it up.
- Vladimof 5y ago> Often there won't be a clear answer to why you're blacklisted. If Gmail sends your stuff to the spam box, good luck getting Google to tell you why. Yeah, they make it hard to get an email address semi-anonymously and then when you create your own server, they block you for "spam"
- riffic 5y agoMy community college created my Gmail account for me and they needed a lot more information than just a phone number to enroll up. What I'm trying to say here is that we can get email or other identities other than the ones we make on our own. Perhaps we should be doing this identity-tying more often? Many people get email addresses from their employer and aren't expected to move those addresses around when they change jobs.
- tester756 5y agoEmail has terrible withdrawal support, or I'm not aware of anything that handles it. For example I had address@email-hosting.com and after a few years I stopped using it after some years I tried to sign into my account and realized that it doesn't exist and to my shock I was able to create account with that address again! Email in my opinion lacks of "broadcast account being closed" option or something like that
- jdrc 5y agodomains do that too It's good. we dont need perfect systems, neither should an email be tied to our real existence or our whole existence . "Real name" identities was a mistake. Semi-anonymous, expendable identity is better