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I really enjoyed using blitz for a project. But I'm tired of the react ecosystem, and I was disappointed I had to give up Blitz's features. But thanks to the

by voat 5y ago

I really enjoyed using blitz for a project. But I'm tired of the react ecosystem, and I was disappointed I had to give up Blitz's features. But thanks to the pivot, I'm excited to use blitz-auth and their Prisma codegen with other projects.

uxcolumbo 5y ago
Why are you tired of the React ecosystem?
- 0des 5y ago
  Needless complexity, heavy weight, high cognitive load if you're doing it right (most people still don't use hooks) and bottom line holy shit its just frontend, how did we get to this point?
  - emteycz 5y ago
    To what point? It's still better than doing WPF apps and comparable to making QML apps. There's no magic sauce that makes frontend easy. The complexity of web pages has increased. Development is not harder. We're making complex apps and not just styled documents now. What you made 10 years ago is much easier to do today.
    - 0des 5y ago
      Cancer is still better than dying
    - tmp_anon_22 5y ago
      Presentational logic is hard, and while each ecosystem has settled into an all-rightish presentational UI (i.e. React, UI kit) - we still haven't figured out how to pair it with state in a way that doesn't require a massive amount of duplicative effort. I'm really hoping for some kind of Rust/WebAssembly kit for write-once manage-state everywhere bundles that you can deploy to native presentational applications on every platform. Kind of like grpc but also tying in authentication and intuitive hooks into component logic.
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    - jimbob45 5y ago
      What do you have against WPF? They were really onto something with trying to remake HTML into an extensible language of their own. Hacking together HTML today with React, Angular, and VueJS just seems like no one wants to admit that HTML needs to be rebuilt and JS deserves to be replaced.
      - 0des 5y ago
        I'm pretty excited about trying HTMX lately, have you heard of it or tried it?
      - emteycz 5y ago
        WPF is not bad, but I like dev experience of React much better - I'm able to iterate on solution quicker, and the Chrome devtools are very good too. Yeah it's a hack on top of HTML, but there's React Native too. Which is kind of a hack too, but it's going towards the right direction IMHO.

by voat 5y ago

uxcolumbo 5y ago

Why are you tired of the React ecosystem?

0des 5y ago
Needless complexity, heavy weight, high cognitive load if you're doing it right (most people still don't use hooks) and bottom line holy shit its just frontend, how did we get to this point?
- emteycz 5y ago
  To what point? It's still better than doing WPF apps and comparable to making QML apps. There's no magic sauce that makes frontend easy. The complexity of web pages has increased. Development is not harder. We're making complex apps and not just styled documents now. What you made 10 years ago is much easier to do today.
  - 0des 5y ago
    Cancer is still better than dying
  - tmp_anon_22 5y ago
    Presentational logic is hard, and while each ecosystem has settled into an all-rightish presentational UI (i.e. React, UI kit) - we still haven't figured out how to pair it with state in a way that doesn't require a massive amount of duplicative effort. I'm really hoping for some kind of Rust/WebAssembly kit for write-once manage-state everywhere bundles that you can deploy to native presentational applications on every platform. Kind of like grpc but also tying in authentication and intuitive hooks into component logic.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
  - jimbob45 5y ago
    What do you have against WPF? They were really onto something with trying to remake HTML into an extensible language of their own. Hacking together HTML today with React, Angular, and VueJS just seems like no one wants to admit that HTML needs to be rebuilt and JS deserves to be replaced.
    - 0des 5y ago
      I'm pretty excited about trying HTMX lately, have you heard of it or tried it?
    - emteycz 5y ago
      WPF is not bad, but I like dev experience of React much better - I'm able to iterate on solution quicker, and the Chrome devtools are very good too. Yeah it's a hack on top of HTML, but there's React Native too. Which is kind of a hack too, but it's going towards the right direction IMHO.