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I'm a senior in university now, but it did really feel like this when I was in high-school. And it still feels like this in university, though I'm now much more

by nynx 5y ago

I'm a senior in university now, but it did really feel like this when I was in high-school. And it still feels like this in university, though I'm now much more capable of reasoning of whether it's true or if I just feel that it's true. I think this is a consistent theme throughout the entirety of the United States. There's so little leeway. Fail a class -> you might have to go into an extra 20k of debt. Lose your job -> Homeless, foodless, insuranceless. Something will eventually give.

ZhangSWEFAANG 5y ago
There are homeless shelters and food stamps.
- giraffe_lady 5y ago
  you know those two are mostly incompatible? snap won't get you ready to eat food and homeless shelters won't give you access to a kitchen. just as like, a small minor indicator of how poorly you understand these systems and how cruel suggesting this is in that context.
- JaimeThompson 5y ago
  You haven't every been poor in the US have you? If you had then you would know that those services aren't the best and border on the useless.
Animats 5y ago
Flunking out today doesn't mean being drafted into the Army. That may come back, especially in Europe. It's shaping up to be a long war.
- thr0wawayf00 5y ago
  Flunking out wouldn't mean getting drafted into the army in the US anyway, the waiting list to join has been setting records for a few years now[0] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-army-waiting-list-record-levels-high-unemployment/story?id=12495054 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-army-waiting-list-record-...
  - after_care 5y ago
    Flunking out of college did mean getting drafted during the Vietnam and Korea wars.
    - thr0wawayf00 5y ago
      ...which were 50+ years ago. Much of the world was very different back then.
      - earleybird 5y ago
        In some ways the world is very much the same; just more of it.
  - Animats 5y ago
    (2010)
  - Lammy 5y ago
    It's even worse if you look at what types of recruits they target https://newrepublic.com/article/156131/military-views-poor-kids-fodder-forever-wars https://newrepublic.com/article/156131/military-views-poor-k... (https://archive.ph/9lYDQ https://archive.ph/9lYDQ) (2020) > This week, Anthony Clark, an Air Force veteran and Democratic congressional candidate in Illinois, noted how deeply embedded this trend is in American military service, detailing how he, his brother, father, and grandfather were all drafted or enlisted because “poverty is the draft.”
- oneoff786 5y ago
  I don’t see any evidence it’s shaping up to be a long war. Russia has effectively abandoned their western front. They’re focusing on the east and somewhat the south. The Russian army’s performance has been pathetic and wouldn’t last long at all vs. nato. Nukes are a thing, but not a long war thing.
  - supercanuck 5y ago
    This isn't true. There is evidence they are regrouping and the approval rating of Putin in Russia is increasing.
    - oneoff786 5y ago
      There is no evidence they are regrouping. There is strong evidence of vehicles being trained back out of Ukraine via Belorussian rail. To attack kyiv again would be starting from scratch. Putin’s approval rating is irrelevant. Russia has managed to lose the battle of kyiv, and among other blundering failures, has repeatedly failed to establish air superiority. The extent to which they would be utterly slaughtered given actual western air support is hard to exaggerate. At least to the extent of arbitrary Europeans needing to worry about a draft.
    - JaimeThompson 5y ago
      >the approval rating of Putin in Russia is increasing If you lived in Russia would you give an honest answer to those running the polls not knowing if they would report you to the government?
      - earleybird 5y ago
        Lol, in Canada it will soon be illegal to give an honest opinion of our own government.
  - supramouse 5y ago
    they likely achieve their goals though, taking the east and crippling the country to a point it's not extremely relevant there's the whole 'western unity' thing but it won't last very long and doesn't severely change the equation

by nynx 5y ago

ZhangSWEFAANG 5y ago

There are homeless shelters and food stamps.

giraffe_lady 5y ago
you know those two are mostly incompatible? snap won't get you ready to eat food and homeless shelters won't give you access to a kitchen. just as like, a small minor indicator of how poorly you understand these systems and how cruel suggesting this is in that context.
JaimeThompson 5y ago
You haven't every been poor in the US have you? If you had then you would know that those services aren't the best and border on the useless.

Animats 5y ago

Flunking out today doesn't mean being drafted into the Army. That may come back, especially in Europe. It's shaping up to be a long war.

thr0wawayf00 5y ago
Flunking out wouldn't mean getting drafted into the army in the US anyway, the waiting list to join has been setting records for a few years now[0] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-army-waiting-list-record-levels-high-unemployment/story?id=12495054 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-army-waiting-list-record-...
- after_care 5y ago
  Flunking out of college did mean getting drafted during the Vietnam and Korea wars.
  - thr0wawayf00 5y ago
    ...which were 50+ years ago. Much of the world was very different back then.
    - earleybird 5y ago
      In some ways the world is very much the same; just more of it.
- Animats 5y ago
  (2010)
- Lammy 5y ago
  It's even worse if you look at what types of recruits they target https://newrepublic.com/article/156131/military-views-poor-kids-fodder-forever-wars https://newrepublic.com/article/156131/military-views-poor-k... (https://archive.ph/9lYDQ https://archive.ph/9lYDQ) (2020) > This week, Anthony Clark, an Air Force veteran and Democratic congressional candidate in Illinois, noted how deeply embedded this trend is in American military service, detailing how he, his brother, father, and grandfather were all drafted or enlisted because “poverty is the draft.”
oneoff786 5y ago
I don’t see any evidence it’s shaping up to be a long war. Russia has effectively abandoned their western front. They’re focusing on the east and somewhat the south. The Russian army’s performance has been pathetic and wouldn’t last long at all vs. nato. Nukes are a thing, but not a long war thing.
- supercanuck 5y ago
  This isn't true. There is evidence they are regrouping and the approval rating of Putin in Russia is increasing.
  - oneoff786 5y ago
    There is no evidence they are regrouping. There is strong evidence of vehicles being trained back out of Ukraine via Belorussian rail. To attack kyiv again would be starting from scratch. Putin’s approval rating is irrelevant. Russia has managed to lose the battle of kyiv, and among other blundering failures, has repeatedly failed to establish air superiority. The extent to which they would be utterly slaughtered given actual western air support is hard to exaggerate. At least to the extent of arbitrary Europeans needing to worry about a draft.
  - JaimeThompson 5y ago
    >the approval rating of Putin in Russia is increasing If you lived in Russia would you give an honest answer to those running the polls not knowing if they would report you to the government?
    - earleybird 5y ago
      Lol, in Canada it will soon be illegal to give an honest opinion of our own government.
- supramouse 5y ago
  they likely achieve their goals though, taking the east and crippling the country to a point it's not extremely relevant there's the whole 'western unity' thing but it won't last very long and doesn't severely change the equation