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> Where exactly is the difference between those goods and housing? The first difference is elasticity of demand. Housing is relatively inelastic in the short t
by Diesel555 5y ago
> Where exactly is the difference between those goods and housing?
The first difference is elasticity of demand. Housing is relatively inelastic in the short term due to land availability, time to build, and government regulation. This simply means that as price increases, quantity demanded does not decrease as much as it would for another good. For example, cereal is pretty elastic with good substitutes. If the price of cereal goes up, a good portion of consumers will switch products. In the long term housing is more elastic as people build more.
So, demand isn't changing a lot with price. And the second difference is that housing is a basic need. Let's make the assumption that housing is a truly competitive market without government regulation. The market will settle at different prices for different qualities of housing. It will be incredibly efficient and maximize consumer and producer surplus (economic goodness). But, people will be left out of the market. A perfectly competitive market DOES NOT guarantee that everyone will be able to purchase the product. It will just maximize consumer and producer surplus.
Okay, so we as a society think that we should provide some government assistance for those that cannot afford housing in this market. We have some options. We could implement a rent ceiling. Unfortunately, and this is well proven, price ceilings create shortages and inequities. Most economist do not agree with price ceilings. https://www.factcheck.org/2009/02/when-economists-agree/ https://www.factcheck.org/2009/02/when-economists-agree/
We could provide programs as detailed in this article which effects the supply. As this article highlights, all government intervention WILL create market inefficiencies. The pie will get smaller. I'm not saying that the government should not act, I am simply saying that government interaction is a tradeoff between equity and efficiency in a competitive market without market failures.
I am a proponent of a voucher based system to give a credit towards rent for those in need. This reduces the government intervention on the supplier side. To be clear, these vouchers will slightly raise housing prices, likely not be implemented without exploitation, and make the overall economy slightly less efficient due to the tax. But the vouchers will also reduce inequity and provide people in need with a basic good.
I think a lot of the problem is from too much government intervention. For example, people get a lot of tax breaks as a landlord. This makes it more desirable to buy and then rent out a house. This shifts the demand curve right raising prices and removing some people from the market (it reduces home ownership rates). I think those tax breaks should be removed, especially if the house is not your primary residence or is your second or third home. People will make the argument that this hurts the poor because people won't build for them. But then the discussions above about a competitive market and the voucher system are better in my opinion than giving tax breaks to companies that own hundreds of homes.
- Plasmoid 5y ago> For example, people get a lot of tax breaks as a landlord As a landlord that is wrong. You get to deduct the expenses you have for running the property against the rental income, but that's just how business works. Landlords have enormous deductions because operating a property is really expensive. In fact, you pay higher taxes in a lot of cases. It is very common to give people a property tax deduction/reduction if it's a person's primary residence. Landlords don't get that. Many places also impose direct revenue taxes. So your city/county/state will take several percent of your revenue off the top. Finally, after higher input taxes, paying all those business expenses, you get to pay income tax on what's left over. Also, primary residences are subject to a $250k/$500k capital gains exclusion that rental properties do not get.
- buck4roo 5y agoIgnore the plight of renters at your own peril.
- Plasmoid 5y agoDo you think that Mao had the right idea w.r.t landlords?
- Diesel555 5y agoPointing out that primary residents get great breaks does not mean that landlords do not also get tax breaks. They just don’t get those. And of course you pay tax on the income left over after expenses. About the direct revenue tax. Government can impose a tax on a producer or consumer, but that doesn’t matter. The proportion of who pays that tax is purely based on the elasticities of both the demand and supply curve. Because demand is inelastic, that tax probably is paid mostly by the consumer through rent prices. I don’t live in a place where there is a direct revenue tax on rental income. There are still breaks landlords get like the 20% pass-through deduction, 1031 exchanges, and interest rate deductions (similar to small business loans - which the government also wants to promote). Keep in mind that if some of these tax breaks apply to other types of businesses, they are still tax breaks for landlords incentivizing people to be landlords vs deciding not to enter the market. That is not a normative statement. I kept deductions for depreciation (which is huge), repairs, employee fees, etc out of the list since they are the expenses you mention.