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macOS does something similar -- when I was setting up my parents' machines I discovered that if you start using not-Safari it starts sending notifications telli

by gtf21 5y ago

macOS does something similar -- when I was setting up my parents' machines I discovered that if you start using not-Safari it starts sending notifications telling you how great the latest Safari is, which is very irritating.

warning26 5y ago
While both are bad (and should probably be illegal), I would argue that Microsoft's are much more insidious, wrapping everything in a language of "accept the default trusted option?"
- gtf21 5y ago
  Agreed that the MS example is more egregious and that both should be illegal, but moreover, these tech companies need a massive culture shift -- both MS and Apple invest an extraordinary amount of effort in reducing user freedom / ownership (which is basically why I went back to Linux after 15 years on a OSX/macOS).
ulimn 5y ago
I’ve only seen such things after updates. Maybe I just missed it - where am I supposed to look for this? (I’m honestly curious) I always browse with Firefox (apart from the occasional Safari when I want Apple Pay) and don’t use Chrome at all.
travisgriggs 5y ago
Interesting. I don’t see these. I brew install brave-browser, select it as my preferred and have never been bothered by any of these prompts. I’m curious what’s different in the mechanisms. The repeated prompt that goes drive me nuts in macOS is the encouragement to get some more iCloud backup. Why can’t it detect I have a time machine backup running on an external SSD and leave me alone?
worik 5y ago
> macOS does something similar -- when I was setting up my parents' machines I discovered that if you start using not-Safari it starts sending notifications telling you how great the latest Safari is, which is very irritating. It grates to defend Apple, but that is not my experience. I cannot recall ever running Safari on the Mac I use. I use Firefox only. I cannot recall being harassed by he MacOS to switch. FLW
- Synaesthesia 5y ago
  If you do a new install of Mac OS there is a one time notification which encourages you to try Safari if you set Chrome as default or Firefox. I know, I just installed it on an old iMac. It's not as obnoxious as the Windows dialog.

by gtf21 5y ago

warning26 5y ago

While both are bad (and should probably be illegal), I would argue that Microsoft's are much more insidious, wrapping everything in a language of "accept the default trusted option?"

gtf21 5y ago
Agreed that the MS example is more egregious and that both should be illegal, but moreover, these tech companies need a massive culture shift -- both MS and Apple invest an extraordinary amount of effort in reducing user freedom / ownership (which is basically why I went back to Linux after 15 years on a OSX/macOS).

ulimn 5y ago

I’ve only seen such things after updates. Maybe I just missed it - where am I supposed to look for this? (I’m honestly curious) I always browse with Firefox (apart from the occasional Safari when I want Apple Pay) and don’t use Chrome at all.

travisgriggs 5y ago

Interesting. I don’t see these. I brew install brave-browser, select it as my preferred and have never been bothered by any of these prompts. I’m curious what’s different in the mechanisms. The repeated prompt that goes drive me nuts in macOS is the encouragement to get some more iCloud backup. Why can’t it detect I have a time machine backup running on an external SSD and leave me alone?

worik 5y ago

> macOS does something similar -- when I was setting up my parents' machines I discovered that if you start using not-Safari it starts sending notifications telling you how great the latest Safari is, which is very irritating. It grates to defend Apple, but that is not my experience. I cannot recall ever running Safari on the Mac I use. I use Firefox only. I cannot recall being harassed by he MacOS to switch. FLW

Synaesthesia 5y ago
If you do a new install of Mac OS there is a one time notification which encourages you to try Safari if you set Chrome as default or Firefox. I know, I just installed it on an old iMac. It's not as obnoxious as the Windows dialog.