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Somebody should setup the uncool and reliable brand of male clothing. I want the Toyota Corolla of male clothing. I do not care about fashion. I want to wear ti

Somebody should setup the uncool and reliable brand of male clothing. I want the Toyota Corolla of male clothing. I do not care about fashion. I want to wear timeless long lasting clothes. Don't care about branding either. Just somebody please setup a shop where I do not have to worry about quality, but is also not a shop that pretends that every item of clothing is hand tailored by an Italian craftsman and costs half a thousand euros.

void-pointer 5y ago
Uni-Qlo.
- Etheryte 5y ago
  I haven't tried any other items from them, but I own one sweater from them and I have no bad words to say about it. The quality is superb and it has lasted me a long time. Anecdotal experience, but so far a good one.
  - layer8 5y ago
    > lasted me a long time That only indicates what the quality was a long time ago. I’ve seen far too many brands and products go from good quality to poor quality over the years. Good quality sold N years ago says nothing about the quality currently sold, unfortunately.
- duncanc4 5y ago
  I found their jeans to not be good quality. I had a pair get holes after one year of use.
  - elric 5y ago
    One year? That's pretty good by my standards. I suffer a crotch blowout roughly every 3 months or so. Jeans, apparently, are not made for people with thighs, nor for people who enjoy sitting cross legged. And certainly not both.
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    - Etheryte 5y ago
      As a guy with lifter's legs, I can recommend American Eagle's flex line jeans, whatever they're currently called by their branding department. They come in a wide range of sizes so you can easily match what you need, and also different fits. I used to have the problem you described and no longer do.
- Bayart 5y ago
  Uniqlo's better than most fast fashion brands, but it's still pretty mediocre and made in deplorable conditions.
- itronitron 5y ago
  from the Wikipedia page on Uniqlo... >> In January 2021, Uniqlo shirts were blocked at the US border over concerns of violations related to a ban on cotton products produced in the Xinjiang region of China due to reports of forced labour. A protest was filed by Uniqlo's parent company Fast Retailing, but was denied. >> In March 2022, Fast Retailing decided to remain in the Russian market despite Russia's attack on Ukraine saying that clothing is a "necessity of life".
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tyrfing 5y ago
There's quite a bit of that. Pendleton, Duluth Trading, Lands End to name a few in the US. A lot of them offer very boxy fits, but whole categories like workwear are basically "durable and reliable clothing" - or at least pretending to be. A problem arises when you want modern fit + durable + fashionable; that's when you start to see huge price tags.
- JasonFruit 5y ago
  The combination of fashionable and durable doesn't make sense: fashions change quickly, so why should an article of clothing outlive the fashion it was meant to serve? To embrace durability in clothing — which I would far rather remain a choice rather than be mandated — you have to embrace social durability, that is, looks that are socially acceptable but not fashionable.
- foobarian 5y ago
  I've been going shopping for shirts/jeans for 30 years now, and when I see something I like I always pinch it between my fingers to check the fabric. Had a fabulous 100% cotton Polo RL shirt that lasted me 10 years until creases around cuffs and the collar literally disintegrated. Went to the same section just last month and the most expensive, fancy shirt there was as thin as rice paper. You could see through it! I'm not sure what to do. It might be time to switch to an online source, but then I can't "pinch the fabric" as easily - have to return what I don't like. Wish there was a source with fabric specs, but I have little hope. As it is you can barely get the manufacturers to fess up the material blend, hiding it in between a bunch of other tags in fine print or in weird spots.
- owenversteeg 5y ago
  Not anymore. Pendleton moved production to China a few years back. Duluth has gone far, far downhill (and killed their lifetime warranty.) Lands End is also a shadow of what it was. You only need to hold the new next to the old to see. The same goes for LL Bean (killed their lifetime warranty, product quality went way downhill) and Filson (they even killed their slogan "Might as Well Have the Best".) I'm not sure what's left, to be honest; let me know if anyone knows if high quality clothes still exist anymore.
reducesuffering 5y ago
Uniqlo and Carhartt
owenversteeg 5y ago
LL Bean used to make the "timeless and long lasting" clothes you're looking for, but sadly has gone downhill in recent years. It's still noticeably better quality than J.Crew or Banana Republic, but many things are much thinner than they used to be. Avoid outlets or "factory" stores (clothes are made specifically for outlets.) Avoid J.Crew, Brooks Brothers, Banana Republic, H&M, TJ Maxx, the Gap. Avoid anything that's gone bankrupt, or been acquired (JC Penney.) Avoid pretty much everything on Amazon. One decent sign of quality is the thickness of the materials. Some manufacturers will actually note the weight (in gsm or grams per m2.) I have the exact t-shirt in 160gsm and 300gsm from the same company and the 300gsm feels way more substantial/high quality/will last longer. It's also the only t-shirt I've ever gotten compliments on. Of course, higher weights are also warmer. Another decent sign is the materials themselves. Avoid anything plastic-based (nylon, polyester, acrylic, microfiber, etc.) Some materials I love and would recommend in some cases (cashmere, silk, merino wool) but are less durable, so avoid those if you're going for uncool and reliable. High quality cotton and wool, depending on how it's woven, can last forever. Leather starts to age, but if you take care of it it can be a good look. Also, don't have unrealistic expectations. Even the "best overall running shoe of 2022" from RunRepeat (who do serious running shoe reviews, tear them down etc) - is only expected to last 400-500 miles. Things have a finite lifespan. You can also make a significant difference by how you wash your clothes. Washing gentle on cold (or hand washing) can make some clothes last several times longer, easily. If you do all those things (buy high quality to start, made from wool/cotton/leather, wash gentle on cold) you can get 10 years out of a piece of clothing if you don't wear it too often. I've gotten a couple hundred wears over 10+ years out of several LL Bean shirts myself.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  American Giant. Period. Made in USA, absolutely amazing quality. The entire end-to-end supply chain from cotton to thread in the USA. https://www.american-giant.com/ https://www.american-giant.com/
- humaniania 5y ago
  When you find a good quality item that you like a lot go back and get extras! Different colors or just some to store away for when your current copy wears out.
Bayart 5y ago
Filson, Bastong and Arc'teryx should be right up your alley.
- layer8 5y ago
  I found Arc'teryx quality to be decreasing in the last couple of years.
  - SauciestGNU 5y ago
    If their quality is no longer up to snuff there's always veilance.
dgellow 5y ago
In Europe you should be able to find: - We (their men stores) - Uniqlo
pg_bot 5y ago
American Giant
Jhsto 5y ago
My two cents: Bonobos for shirts and jeans Pt01 and Pt05 for pants (sales are up to 50%) Pure Waste for t-shirts and colleges Asket and Everlane for everything else

void-pointer 5y ago

Uni-Qlo.

Etheryte 5y ago
I haven't tried any other items from them, but I own one sweater from them and I have no bad words to say about it. The quality is superb and it has lasted me a long time. Anecdotal experience, but so far a good one.
- layer8 5y ago
  > lasted me a long time That only indicates what the quality was a long time ago. I’ve seen far too many brands and products go from good quality to poor quality over the years. Good quality sold N years ago says nothing about the quality currently sold, unfortunately.
duncanc4 5y ago
I found their jeans to not be good quality. I had a pair get holes after one year of use.
- elric 5y ago
  One year? That's pretty good by my standards. I suffer a crotch blowout roughly every 3 months or so. Jeans, apparently, are not made for people with thighs, nor for people who enjoy sitting cross legged. And certainly not both.
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  - Etheryte 5y ago
    As a guy with lifter's legs, I can recommend American Eagle's flex line jeans, whatever they're currently called by their branding department. They come in a wide range of sizes so you can easily match what you need, and also different fits. I used to have the problem you described and no longer do.
Bayart 5y ago
Uniqlo's better than most fast fashion brands, but it's still pretty mediocre and made in deplorable conditions.
itronitron 5y ago
from the Wikipedia page on Uniqlo... >> In January 2021, Uniqlo shirts were blocked at the US border over concerns of violations related to a ban on cotton products produced in the Xinjiang region of China due to reports of forced labour. A protest was filed by Uniqlo's parent company Fast Retailing, but was denied. >> In March 2022, Fast Retailing decided to remain in the Russian market despite Russia's attack on Ukraine saying that clothing is a "necessity of life".

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tyrfing 5y ago

There's quite a bit of that. Pendleton, Duluth Trading, Lands End to name a few in the US. A lot of them offer very boxy fits, but whole categories like workwear are basically "durable and reliable clothing" - or at least pretending to be. A problem arises when you want modern fit + durable + fashionable; that's when you start to see huge price tags.

JasonFruit 5y ago
The combination of fashionable and durable doesn't make sense: fashions change quickly, so why should an article of clothing outlive the fashion it was meant to serve? To embrace durability in clothing — which I would far rather remain a choice rather than be mandated — you have to embrace social durability, that is, looks that are socially acceptable but not fashionable.
foobarian 5y ago
I've been going shopping for shirts/jeans for 30 years now, and when I see something I like I always pinch it between my fingers to check the fabric. Had a fabulous 100% cotton Polo RL shirt that lasted me 10 years until creases around cuffs and the collar literally disintegrated. Went to the same section just last month and the most expensive, fancy shirt there was as thin as rice paper. You could see through it! I'm not sure what to do. It might be time to switch to an online source, but then I can't "pinch the fabric" as easily - have to return what I don't like. Wish there was a source with fabric specs, but I have little hope. As it is you can barely get the manufacturers to fess up the material blend, hiding it in between a bunch of other tags in fine print or in weird spots.
owenversteeg 5y ago
Not anymore. Pendleton moved production to China a few years back. Duluth has gone far, far downhill (and killed their lifetime warranty.) Lands End is also a shadow of what it was. You only need to hold the new next to the old to see. The same goes for LL Bean (killed their lifetime warranty, product quality went way downhill) and Filson (they even killed their slogan "Might as Well Have the Best".) I'm not sure what's left, to be honest; let me know if anyone knows if high quality clothes still exist anymore.

reducesuffering 5y ago

Uniqlo and Carhartt

owenversteeg 5y ago

LL Bean used to make the "timeless and long lasting" clothes you're looking for, but sadly has gone downhill in recent years. It's still noticeably better quality than J.Crew or Banana Republic, but many things are much thinner than they used to be. Avoid outlets or "factory" stores (clothes are made specifically for outlets.) Avoid J.Crew, Brooks Brothers, Banana Republic, H&M, TJ Maxx, the Gap. Avoid anything that's gone bankrupt, or been acquired (JC Penney.) Avoid pretty much everything on Amazon. One decent sign of quality is the thickness of the materials. Some manufacturers will actually note the weight (in gsm or grams per m2.) I have the exact t-shirt in 160gsm and 300gsm from the same company and the 300gsm feels way more substantial/high quality/will last longer. It's also the only t-shirt I've ever gotten compliments on. Of course, higher weights are also warmer. Another decent sign is the materials themselves. Avoid anything plastic-based (nylon, polyester, acrylic, microfiber, etc.) Some materials I love and would recommend in some cases (cashmere, silk, merino wool) but are less durable, so avoid those if you're going for uncool and reliable. High quality cotton and wool, depending on how it's woven, can last forever. Leather starts to age, but if you take care of it it can be a good look. Also, don't have unrealistic expectations. Even the "best overall running shoe of 2022" from RunRepeat (who do serious running shoe reviews, tear them down etc) - is only expected to last 400-500 miles. Things have a finite lifespan. You can also make a significant difference by how you wash your clothes. Washing gentle on cold (or hand washing) can make some clothes last several times longer, easily. If you do all those things (buy high quality to start, made from wool/cotton/leather, wash gentle on cold) you can get 10 years out of a piece of clothing if you don't wear it too often. I've gotten a couple hundred wears over 10+ years out of several LL Bean shirts myself.

systemvoltage 5y ago
American Giant. Period. Made in USA, absolutely amazing quality. The entire end-to-end supply chain from cotton to thread in the USA. https://www.american-giant.com/ https://www.american-giant.com/
humaniania 5y ago
When you find a good quality item that you like a lot go back and get extras! Different colors or just some to store away for when your current copy wears out.

Bayart 5y ago

Filson, Bastong and Arc'teryx should be right up your alley.

layer8 5y ago
I found Arc'teryx quality to be decreasing in the last couple of years.
- SauciestGNU 5y ago
  If their quality is no longer up to snuff there's always veilance.

dgellow 5y ago

In Europe you should be able to find: - We (their men stores) - Uniqlo

pg_bot 5y ago

American Giant

Jhsto 5y ago

My two cents: Bonobos for shirts and jeans Pt01 and Pt05 for pants (sales are up to 50%) Pure Waste for t-shirts and colleges Asket and Everlane for everything else