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You’re more annoyed by ff than Edge embedding a buy now pay later feature?

by mstipetic 5y ago

alan-hn 5y ago
Different smells, same fecal matter
- mmastrac 5y ago
  Not even in the same ballpark, sorry.
  - Spivak 5y ago
    Why? They’re both nagware using the same patterns to get users to make them the default browser. The only difference is that MS can put the notifications in the OS and Google can put the notifications on Search. Same game, Firefox is just in the minor leagues because they don’t have valuable digital real estate in addition to the browser.
- brynjolf 5y ago
  The year is 2022 and everything is now equal. The human race has decided to never use nuance again. Worlds biggest corporations trying to stop you from installing a free community built browser is the same as it asking you nicely once to become the default
  - Spivak 5y ago
    Chrome isn’t hawking a news platform on the new tab page with sponsored links, pushing you towards a co-branded VPN, or showing ads for random media properties. Good lord Firefox has fallen from grace in search of revenue. I still use it as my daily driver but they’re killing the golden calf in an attempt to save it.
    - mstipetic 5y ago
      What do you suggest they do in search of revenue? Are you donating to FF?
      - Spivak 5y ago
        Yes. But I’m not delusional that my contribution matters. They should search for revenue like all community projects. Get companies that have a stake in FF existing because they distribute it — Canonical, Red Hat, AWS, Oracle to put up cash and pay developers to work on it. The only FOSS models that have a track record of success are: * Run ads which is really shady. * Be a true community project and be developed by the people who use it. * Be open core and sell proprietary features. * Sell consulting and documentation.
  - Johanx64 5y ago
    Firefox of all things, isn't a "free community built browser". That's just so out of touch. And they have been acting very scummy for at least a decade, at least. And there we go on talking about nuance...
tssva 5y ago
I use Edge and although I have heard of the feature it has never been presented to me. Firefox on the other hand prompts me for unwanted Mozilla offerings and puts Disney ads in the browser.

You’re more annoyed by ff than Edge embedding a buy now pay later feature?

alan-hn 5y ago

Different smells, same fecal matter

mmastrac 5y ago
Not even in the same ballpark, sorry.
- Spivak 5y ago
  Why? They’re both nagware using the same patterns to get users to make them the default browser. The only difference is that MS can put the notifications in the OS and Google can put the notifications on Search. Same game, Firefox is just in the minor leagues because they don’t have valuable digital real estate in addition to the browser.
brynjolf 5y ago
The year is 2022 and everything is now equal. The human race has decided to never use nuance again. Worlds biggest corporations trying to stop you from installing a free community built browser is the same as it asking you nicely once to become the default
- Spivak 5y ago
  Chrome isn’t hawking a news platform on the new tab page with sponsored links, pushing you towards a co-branded VPN, or showing ads for random media properties. Good lord Firefox has fallen from grace in search of revenue. I still use it as my daily driver but they’re killing the golden calf in an attempt to save it.
  - mstipetic 5y ago
    What do you suggest they do in search of revenue? Are you donating to FF?
    - Spivak 5y ago
      Yes. But I’m not delusional that my contribution matters. They should search for revenue like all community projects. Get companies that have a stake in FF existing because they distribute it — Canonical, Red Hat, AWS, Oracle to put up cash and pay developers to work on it. The only FOSS models that have a track record of success are: * Run ads which is really shady. * Be a true community project and be developed by the people who use it. * Be open core and sell proprietary features. * Sell consulting and documentation.
- Johanx64 5y ago
  Firefox of all things, isn't a "free community built browser". That's just so out of touch. And they have been acting very scummy for at least a decade, at least. And there we go on talking about nuance...

tssva 5y ago

I use Edge and although I have heard of the feature it has never been presented to me. Firefox on the other hand prompts me for unwanted Mozilla offerings and puts Disney ads in the browser.