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This is a repost. I once respected Kawasaki, however he has turned into a huge social media spammer and baiter.
by vertr 15y ago
This is a repost. I once respected Kawasaki, however he has turned into a huge social media spammer and baiter.
- SODaniel 15y agoGuy is a very insightful person, fallen victim to the 'The more people that hear me, the more I matter' theorem.
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- vertr 15y agoSounds like an appeal to authority to me.
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- vertr 15y agoI'm talking about your comment: "He was right back then, and he's still right today. Not many people can claim that." There is no argument there other than, 'he's right because he's right.'
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- rumpelstiltskin 15y agoHe's not saying Guy is wrong. He's saying you're gonna have to come up with a more cogent argument than "He was right back then, and he's still right today". Basically, the burden of proof is on you since you made the original claim.
- palish 15y agoKay, you win.
- SODaniel 15y agoHow can it not matter. Once a person that wrote from the heart about matter concerning maybe a few, maybe very few, once fallen victim to his own greatness that person will seek out subjects that appeal to the masses no matter the depth of his own insight. I think it matters deeply.
- palish 15y agoMm... Good point. Is that happening here, you think? I tend to play Devil's advocate; and right now, people are demonizing Guy. But if he's genuinely full of fluff, then it'd be justified.
- slardat01 15y agoCan you give a little background for someone who's not as familiar with GK?
- Goladus 15y agoThe first post was killed for some unknown reason. Are Kawasaki articles banned from Hacker News? Also, the ad hominem seems out of place. Is he wrong or uninteresting in this case?
- vertr 15y agoIt would be ad hominem if I were trying to prove the claims of this article incorrect by critiquing him personally, but I clearly wasn't trying to disprove the claims of the article. Citing wikipedia: "Gratuitous verbal abuse or "name-calling" itself is not an ad hominem or a logical fallacy.[8][13][14][15][16] In order to become a fallacy, the insult would need to be given as a reason for believing some conclusion. An example would be, "X is idiotically ignorant [of politics], so why should we listen to him now?"" Also, "Is he wrong or uninteresting in this case?" is a false dilemma.
- Goladus 15y agoYou are correct. Absent any attempt to address points actually made, it cannot be ad hominem.
- chl 15y agoIs there a way to find out whether a story was killed (besides noticing a sudden drop in the ranking)?
- Goladus 15y agoIn this case, the only way I know is that I had the comments page of the old thread loaded. When I refreshed the page, [dead] appeared in the title and replying was disabled. Now, I'm unable to find it, so I'm not sure, and the comments that were there are not here.
- chl 15y agoAh! HN doesn't display [dead] when you're the submitter of the story. Now I only wonder _why_ it was killed ... http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3088810 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3088810