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Counterpoint: I wrote my Master Thesis on Value Networks in 2004. While I got a perfect grade on it it was largely unnoticed. Now with Social+ and Crypto gettin
by jsemrau 5y ago
Counterpoint: I wrote my Master Thesis on Value Networks in 2004. While I got a perfect grade on it it was largely unnoticed. Now with Social+ and Crypto getting together, it becomes really useful for my work almost two decades later. So I am saying, give it time.
- mgaunard 5y agoA master thesis is not a PhD.
- froh 5y agoWhile technically correct how does that relate to the dialogue above? A PhD is even deeper work in a niche topic than a masters, right however that doesn't contradict that the niche know how may become useful later.
- CamperBob2 5y agoIf it's far enough ahead of its time, I suppose it might earn you an honorary doctorate someplace. Sore subject, huh.
- pjmlp 5y agoWhile true, in Portugal it used to be so that a master degree was a requirement for a PhD, unless one was a prodigy child. I suspect the same happens in many other countries. So it already puts one above everyone else that has a classical university degree.
- jacquesm 5y agoWhich GP did not claim it was. Also: besides being pedantic this comment mostly seems to be to put the writer down in some way, so applying the principle of charity here, what did you want to achieve with your comment?
- la_fayette 5y agoThere are outstanding master thesis, which introduced quite revolutionary concepts or algorithms. E.g., John Canny developed the canny edge detector within his master thesis. There are of course other examples...
- fivea 5y agoOne outstanding example is not much in the way of a proof. A masters thesis is a few month's work from an untrained student going through an idea that's already being explored by the school's research group. A PhD typically involves far more deep independent work that's deemed relevant by at least one research institution.
- rowanG077 5y agoI don't know what you need to be huffing to consider a master student at the final stages "untrained". A master is basically the highest form of schooling there is.
- Beldin 5y ago... except for a PhD. A master's is typically an admission requirement to a PhD - at least, around here. In my experience, a master student's final project typically constitute their first foray into / encounter with academic research. So yes, untrained in that sense.
- rowanG077 5y agoPhD is not schooling. It's a research job. You get paid to do a PhD.
- Beldin 5y agoAround here, a training and education plan is required. Some institutions have a requirement on ECTS or another form of "study points" a PhD student must have gathered before defence. The fact that you are paid doesn't preclude it being a traineeship.
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- ChrisMarshallNY 5y agoI think that Adobe Photoshop started as Tom Knoll’s masters thesis. It might have been his Ph.D thesis. Not sure. I saw it demoed in Ann Arbor, back in ‘89, or so; before Adobe brought it. It was introduced as “A friend’s masters thesis.”
- fm2606 5y agoWell.. https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/i-couldnt-believe-it-university-of-pretoria-student-submits-masters-thesis-gets-phd-instead-20211002#:~:text=University%20of%20Pretoria%20master's%20student,earned%20him%20a%20higher%20qualification https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/i-couldnt-bel....
- jsemrau 5y agoYou point being?
- mgaunard 5y agoA master's is useful, a PhD is not. Somehow that flew over most of the people replying to me, who thought I was implying that a master thesis is inferior to a PhD thesis. Probably projecting their own insecurities.
- samch93 5y agoDo you know about Claude Shannon's Master thesis?
- agency 5y agoAh so one should simply pick a field of study that will become relevant in two decades. Why didn’t I think of that?
- jsemrau 5y agoYou are missing the point. I had a lovely 20 years where my work didn't connect to my Master Thesis much. Pick an area where you want to work in because you like the area.