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> Most albums have several versions/releases And some times they're altered without any obviously-visible indication like differing number of tracks or "editio

by Lammy 5y ago

> Most albums have several versions/releases And some times they're altered without any obviously-visible indication like differing number of tracks or "edition" naming, e.g.: - MM..FOOD? (2004) [RSE0051-2] where "Kookies" samples Sesame Street: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RYCLfGE-_Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RYCLfGE-_Q - MM..FOOD? (2007) [RSE0084-2] where "Kookies" is totally re-recorded with a different and non-infringing beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iYSwvdEfeY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iYSwvdEfeY If you use a streaming service you're hearing the latter and might not ever realize the former existed. The re-record is a fine song, but the original fits much better with the rest of the album.

dotancohen 5y ago
This is my problem with Rust in Peace. It was a terrific album, but Dave didn't want to continue paying royalties to people he no longer likes. So in 2004 or so almost the whole album was rerecorded with studio musicians. It is horrible, mechanical, flat. Even some of the vocals were redone, poorly. I'll sign up for the streaming service that provides the original 1990 Rust in Peace.
- scns 5y ago
  Is that the album where they blew the advance on drugs and had none left for good mixing and mastering?
  - dotancohen 5y ago
    That was Killing is my Business I think. Dave remastered that one too, which is actually not bad, but some things were changed and due to copyright he had to leave off the Nancy Sinatra song. I'd love a version of Killing is my Business with the remastered content were it is identical to the original, but with none of the content or artistic changes. Something like the despecialized Star Wars videos.
- slothtrop 5y ago
  Yeah that was particularly obnoxious. According to discogs.com I think there are more recent reissues/remasters of the original version.
  - dotancohen 5y ago
    The discogs javascript is not playing nice with the current Firefox. I'm specifically referring to the "Show more versions..." control. OK, found it! It seems that the desirable keyword is "Reissue" and specifically to avoid the keyword "Remaster". There was at least a Reissued but not Remastered LP in 2013. Maybe more, but that javascript is horrible!
    - slothtrop 5y ago
      I had the same problem earlier. Definitely a bug they recently introduced. It was easier sifting through sorting by year descending.
kzrdude 5y ago
This annoys me in Spotify so much, that we often only get one version of the album, and usually a new one instead of the original. And maybe I should feel like it's a luxury to have extra bonus tracks with more takes at the end - but I lean over to the album purity side more - the album is one artwork by itself, I want the original track listing and nothing more, as "the album".
iggldiggl 5y ago
> If you use a streaming service you're hearing the latter and might not ever realize the former existed. On a number of live Bob Dylan albums, for inexplicable reasons all online versions (not just streaming, but the download releaes, too) are now missing the between-tracks content that on the physical CDs is part of the pregap, which means you're missing out on the funny stage banter on the 1964 Halloween concert, or the infamous heckling on the electric half of the 1966 Manchester concert.

by Lammy 5y ago

dotancohen 5y ago

This is my problem with Rust in Peace. It was a terrific album, but Dave didn't want to continue paying royalties to people he no longer likes. So in 2004 or so almost the whole album was rerecorded with studio musicians. It is horrible, mechanical, flat. Even some of the vocals were redone, poorly. I'll sign up for the streaming service that provides the original 1990 Rust in Peace.

scns 5y ago
Is that the album where they blew the advance on drugs and had none left for good mixing and mastering?
- dotancohen 5y ago
  That was Killing is my Business I think. Dave remastered that one too, which is actually not bad, but some things were changed and due to copyright he had to leave off the Nancy Sinatra song. I'd love a version of Killing is my Business with the remastered content were it is identical to the original, but with none of the content or artistic changes. Something like the despecialized Star Wars videos.
slothtrop 5y ago
Yeah that was particularly obnoxious. According to discogs.com I think there are more recent reissues/remasters of the original version.
- dotancohen 5y ago
  The discogs javascript is not playing nice with the current Firefox. I'm specifically referring to the "Show more versions..." control. OK, found it! It seems that the desirable keyword is "Reissue" and specifically to avoid the keyword "Remaster". There was at least a Reissued but not Remastered LP in 2013. Maybe more, but that javascript is horrible!
  - slothtrop 5y ago
    I had the same problem earlier. Definitely a bug they recently introduced. It was easier sifting through sorting by year descending.

kzrdude 5y ago

This annoys me in Spotify so much, that we often only get one version of the album, and usually a new one instead of the original. And maybe I should feel like it's a luxury to have extra bonus tracks with more takes at the end - but I lean over to the album purity side more - the album is one artwork by itself, I want the original track listing and nothing more, as "the album".

iggldiggl 5y ago

> If you use a streaming service you're hearing the latter and might not ever realize the former existed. On a number of live Bob Dylan albums, for inexplicable reasons all online versions (not just streaming, but the download releaes, too) are now missing the between-tracks content that on the physical CDs is part of the pregap, which means you're missing out on the funny stage banter on the 1964 Halloween concert, or the infamous heckling on the electric half of the 1966 Manchester concert.