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What is this mainstream media garbage about tumblr being racist. I used to post gothic poetry on that website many years ago and it would blow up with hundreds,

by jart 5y ago

What is this mainstream media garbage about tumblr being racist. I used to post gothic poetry on that website many years ago and it would blow up with hundreds, no thousands, of engagements, even though I literally didn't know anyone who used the platform. It's a shame what happened to Tumblr. We live under an oppressive authoritarian regime that systematically bans, blacklists, decimates, and destroys literally anywhere on the Internet where the working class has fun.

suction 5y ago
I don't understand what you mean...?
nopenopenopeno 5y ago
It wasn’t advertising-friendly, so it was only a matter of time before it became racist too.
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- astrange 5y ago
  Tumblr seems to make enough to keep the lights on, which doesn't make sense since their content is all high def images and must be expensive to run. They're just as advertising-friendly as Twitter, although they are even more incompetent at running ads. They also had more young subcultures that liked spending money, so native advertising like Instagram should've worked. The only young people who like consumerism on Twitter are the kpop fans, everyone else is a communist.
ByteJockey 5y ago
> What is this mainstream media garbage about tumblr being racist. From my memories of the meme wars and the last time I checked in on tumblr, tumblr had a lot of niche communities. A lot of those revolved around sexuality. There were some nazis, but there was also a lot of bad poetry and art. Also porn. Porn was everywhere. When porn got banned, enough people left and enough communities were exiled that the nazi communities (without growing at all) passed some arbitrary percentage of users that declaring the entire site racist became in vogue.
- jart 5y ago
  It used to be the case that if you pinged tumblr.com you'd get a response from x.66.6.y. If I know one thing for certain it's that there can be no light without the darkness on the web: just sterile corporate sponsored content and then some more in popups. You've got one popup for the website, another for the government, and another for the advertiser. I haven't seen any national socialist popups in my browser yet so remind me again who's making the web unpleasant? In American society whenever the state is unhappy with something they blame it on the enemy they defeated in the last war. It doesn't even matter if the enemy didn't have the Internet!
msla 5y ago
Any sufficiently large platform eventually attracts every kind of person. That's why I refuse to consider big platforms "a community": At best, they're platforms on which many communities can form, but anyone trying to tell you a million people can be in one community is either an incompetent marketer, extraordinarily naïve, or, perhaps, attempting to tar a huge number of different communities with the bad actions of a single community, or even a subset of a single community. Ask yourself: If someone told you that Manhattan was Neo-Nazi because someone once saw a swastika flag flying from an apartment window, would you take the claim at face value?
- jart 5y ago
  Every snowflake is special but a snowflake is still a snowflake. Tumblr as a whole definitely had a certain way about it. Probably inherited from the personality of its founders. Otherwise my gothic poems would have fallen on deaf ears!
  - astrange 5y ago
    I'm not sure the average tumblr user (who seems to be a teen girl running a pink-themed account about something insane like pro-anorexia) has much in common with Marco Arment.
    - jart 5y ago
      Yes but who's there and who isn't there in the initial culture probably had something to do with his biases. In some cases we are who we attract.
    - caslon 5y ago
      That's an insane strawman of an entire subculture. It's like saying the average Hacker News user doesn't know what a computer is. You're picking an extremist, extremely small amount of users as an "average," despite them being nothing close to it.
      - astrange 5y ago
codezero 5y ago
Do you mind sharing a gothic poem, even if it’s not one of your own?
- jart 5y ago
  Ohh gosh thanks for asking I would totally share the ones I'm most proud of, but then you'd search Google and find the embarrassing ones! But don't worry, I'm not going to leave you wanting! Please accept as a substitute this gothic poem that I programmed my computer to generate: We're lost in this cruel place your voice above Young soul from out my heart be still in love Worth this cruel place your voice from the deep snow That this is the night of the world so slow Will leave me as my hopes have flown before Which answered not with a love that was more I'm sitting in this kingdom by the grave Your clothes by your voice at the stillness gave She's gone to the floor floating on our side She speaks in the earth and the truth inside Have naught but the pain you feel the bright eyes Beyond the waves wipe out my heart denies Your voice from the laugh of the desolate You're looking for the moon is full of hate Forgive if I could change the time has come We're lost in this world is not like a drum I programmed my poetry generator in C++ to use a monte carlo markov chain model with the help of cmudict and isledict trained on a corpus of Edgar Allen Poe, Tolstoy, Shakespeare, and select gothic bands. https://github.com/jart/poemy2 https://github.com/jart/poemy2 You can read the corpora here: https://github.com/jart/poemy2/tree/master/corpora https://github.com/jart/poemy2/tree/master/corpora I hope this helps!
  - codezero 5y ago
    Thanks. This is fantastic and I understand the worry of outing your own inner thoughts - hence the sideways request. I am more appreciative than you may ever know.
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by jart 5y ago

suction 5y ago

I don't understand what you mean...?

nopenopenopeno 5y ago

It wasn’t advertising-friendly, so it was only a matter of time before it became racist too.

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astrange 5y ago
Tumblr seems to make enough to keep the lights on, which doesn't make sense since their content is all high def images and must be expensive to run. They're just as advertising-friendly as Twitter, although they are even more incompetent at running ads. They also had more young subcultures that liked spending money, so native advertising like Instagram should've worked. The only young people who like consumerism on Twitter are the kpop fans, everyone else is a communist.

ByteJockey 5y ago

> What is this mainstream media garbage about tumblr being racist. From my memories of the meme wars and the last time I checked in on tumblr, tumblr had a lot of niche communities. A lot of those revolved around sexuality. There were some nazis, but there was also a lot of bad poetry and art. Also porn. Porn was everywhere. When porn got banned, enough people left and enough communities were exiled that the nazi communities (without growing at all) passed some arbitrary percentage of users that declaring the entire site racist became in vogue.

jart 5y ago
It used to be the case that if you pinged tumblr.com you'd get a response from x.66.6.y. If I know one thing for certain it's that there can be no light without the darkness on the web: just sterile corporate sponsored content and then some more in popups. You've got one popup for the website, another for the government, and another for the advertiser. I haven't seen any national socialist popups in my browser yet so remind me again who's making the web unpleasant? In American society whenever the state is unhappy with something they blame it on the enemy they defeated in the last war. It doesn't even matter if the enemy didn't have the Internet!

msla 5y ago

Any sufficiently large platform eventually attracts every kind of person. That's why I refuse to consider big platforms "a community": At best, they're platforms on which many communities can form, but anyone trying to tell you a million people can be in one community is either an incompetent marketer, extraordinarily naïve, or, perhaps, attempting to tar a huge number of different communities with the bad actions of a single community, or even a subset of a single community. Ask yourself: If someone told you that Manhattan was Neo-Nazi because someone once saw a swastika flag flying from an apartment window, would you take the claim at face value?

jart 5y ago
Every snowflake is special but a snowflake is still a snowflake. Tumblr as a whole definitely had a certain way about it. Probably inherited from the personality of its founders. Otherwise my gothic poems would have fallen on deaf ears!
- astrange 5y ago
  I'm not sure the average tumblr user (who seems to be a teen girl running a pink-themed account about something insane like pro-anorexia) has much in common with Marco Arment.
  - jart 5y ago
    Yes but who's there and who isn't there in the initial culture probably had something to do with his biases. In some cases we are who we attract.
  - caslon 5y ago
    That's an insane strawman of an entire subculture. It's like saying the average Hacker News user doesn't know what a computer is. You're picking an extremist, extremely small amount of users as an "average," despite them being nothing close to it.
    - astrange 5y ago

codezero 5y ago

Do you mind sharing a gothic poem, even if it’s not one of your own?

jart 5y ago
Ohh gosh thanks for asking I would totally share the ones I'm most proud of, but then you'd search Google and find the embarrassing ones! But don't worry, I'm not going to leave you wanting! Please accept as a substitute this gothic poem that I programmed my computer to generate: We're lost in this cruel place your voice above Young soul from out my heart be still in love Worth this cruel place your voice from the deep snow That this is the night of the world so slow Will leave me as my hopes have flown before Which answered not with a love that was more I'm sitting in this kingdom by the grave Your clothes by your voice at the stillness gave She's gone to the floor floating on our side She speaks in the earth and the truth inside Have naught but the pain you feel the bright eyes Beyond the waves wipe out my heart denies Your voice from the laugh of the desolate You're looking for the moon is full of hate Forgive if I could change the time has come We're lost in this world is not like a drum I programmed my poetry generator in C++ to use a monte carlo markov chain model with the help of cmudict and isledict trained on a corpus of Edgar Allen Poe, Tolstoy, Shakespeare, and select gothic bands. https://github.com/jart/poemy2 https://github.com/jart/poemy2 You can read the corpora here: https://github.com/jart/poemy2/tree/master/corpora https://github.com/jart/poemy2/tree/master/corpora I hope this helps!
- codezero 5y ago
  Thanks. This is fantastic and I understand the worry of outing your own inner thoughts - hence the sideways request. I am more appreciative than you may ever know.

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