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Recklessness in men, is, by its very nature, sexy[0]. Whether toxoplasma became genetically lucky (i.e., trait that is immediately genetically stable after a fe

Recklessness in men, is, by its very nature, sexy[0]. Whether toxoplasma became genetically lucky (i.e., trait that is immediately genetically stable after a few mutations) or if evolutionary pressure created this effect (i.e., many generations where this trait grows over time) may be impossible to ever know. Edit: Downvotes, again? Added a reference. A scientific claim about evolutionary psychology can have merit even if it doesn't fit your personal hopes for the human race. Furthermore, in what world do the downvoters live where women are more likely to causally sleep with the cautious inconspicuous male vs the reckless bad-boy. [0] https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/reckless-men-are-more-likely-to-find-a-mate-35t0znb9q https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/reckless-men-are-more-lik...

callesgg 5y ago
Well, you wrote by its very nature. For something to be of its very nature it has to be part of that thing. No reference in the world can make one thing in to another.
pessimizer 5y ago
The referenced study is weird[0]. It uses smoking and drinking as a proxy for recklessness in men, but doesn't seem to take into account at all whether the women who were evaluating the men smoked or drank themselves. It's like it forgot it was specifically about smoking and drinking, not recklessness. Smoking and drinking women young women (<30) would intuitively find smoking and drinking men more attractive for a short term thing, and find that behavior less acceptable for the long term as they probably find it less acceptable for themselves in the long term. Somebody else did this analysis with smokers, but didn't treat the women as fungible[1]. They found the heightened attraction to smokers was limited to smokers. IMO, we don't really need explanation for why reckless (i.e. brave, risky decisionmaking) people have more short-term relationships. They're more willing to proposition people (brave), and more willing to sleep with people who they will ultimately decide they actually don't like (risky decisionmaking.) This is by definition, as valid if not more than the use smoking and drinking as a definitive sign or recklessness. I'm not saying that people who smoke and drink are more likely to make brave and risky decisions when it comes to interactions with potential sexual partners, but both sets of behaviors can be called "reckless." > in what world [are] women are more likely to causally sleep with the cautious inconspicuous male vs the reckless bad-boy. The world in which the cautious inconspicuous male approached her, and the reckless bad boy didn't. Reckless behavior in women is also attractive, but it isn't due to conforming to some chad stereotype; it's due to the fact that if a woman makes bad decisions, sleeping with you might be one of them. [0] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704916631615 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/14747049166316... [1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263849372_Can_cigarette_smoking_make_a_man_appear_sexier_and_stronger_to_women https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263849372_Can_cigar...

callesgg 5y ago

Well, you wrote by its very nature. For something to be of its very nature it has to be part of that thing. No reference in the world can make one thing in to another.

pessimizer 5y ago

The referenced study is weird[0]. It uses smoking and drinking as a proxy for recklessness in men, but doesn't seem to take into account at all whether the women who were evaluating the men smoked or drank themselves. It's like it forgot it was specifically about smoking and drinking, not recklessness. Smoking and drinking women young women (<30) would intuitively find smoking and drinking men more attractive for a short term thing, and find that behavior less acceptable for the long term as they probably find it less acceptable for themselves in the long term. Somebody else did this analysis with smokers, but didn't treat the women as fungible[1]. They found the heightened attraction to smokers was limited to smokers. IMO, we don't really need explanation for why reckless (i.e. brave, risky decisionmaking) people have more short-term relationships. They're more willing to proposition people (brave), and more willing to sleep with people who they will ultimately decide they actually don't like (risky decisionmaking.) This is by definition, as valid if not more than the use smoking and drinking as a definitive sign or recklessness. I'm not saying that people who smoke and drink are more likely to make brave and risky decisions when it comes to interactions with potential sexual partners, but both sets of behaviors can be called "reckless." > in what world [are] women are more likely to causally sleep with the cautious inconspicuous male vs the reckless bad-boy. The world in which the cautious inconspicuous male approached her, and the reckless bad boy didn't. Reckless behavior in women is also attractive, but it isn't due to conforming to some chad stereotype; it's due to the fact that if a woman makes bad decisions, sleeping with you might be one of them. [0] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704916631615 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/14747049166316... [1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263849372_Can_cigarette_smoking_make_a_man_appear_sexier_and_stronger_to_women https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263849372_Can_cigar...