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> Amazon literally has a research team focused in hiring, and they run A/B experiments to continually improve the process. The current interview format is not a

> Amazon literally has a research team focused in hiring, and they run A/B experiments to continually improve the process. The current interview format is not a cargo cult, is a high refine process through the years. The median time an employee stays there is now under 2 years. Clearly Amazon isn't hiring the calibre of people they need.

auntienomen 5y ago
Maybe they are?
Dudeman112 5y ago
Alternative hypothesis: they did hire the correct people, but working there is so unpleasant that very few people decide to stick around.
- trashtalking99 5y ago
  Which means their hiring practices are flawed.
  - NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
    I agree, but not in the way which I think you mean. They burn up engineers. What good to them is a burnt out engineer? Who cares, hire another one? It's eerily like the military using up soldiers, and I doubt it's an accident. They're maximizing output for their money and they don't care if it makes the engineers suicidal or quit. They can always get more.
- BeetleB 5y ago
  > they did hire the correct people, but working there is so unpleasant that very few people decide to stick around. There are plenty of Amazonians who can handle the culture and stay much longer. It's clear they are not hiring those who can do. It's not an "alternative" hypothesis, but the same one. They haven't figured out how to identify those who can handle it. And this, given how heavily behavioral their interview is.
  - Dudeman112 5y ago
    If they need people who are immune to how much shit their work environment is, they should fix their work environment instead of selecting those who are fine with Victorian sweatshop-like conditions. If the problem was a loud office you'd say they should select for deaf engineers instead of fixing their shit.
ummonk 5y ago
That's how long they can milk the employees with demanding work expectations until the backloaded vesting kicks in.

auntienomen 5y ago

Maybe they are?

Dudeman112 5y ago

Alternative hypothesis: they did hire the correct people, but working there is so unpleasant that very few people decide to stick around.

trashtalking99 5y ago
Which means their hiring practices are flawed.
- NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
  I agree, but not in the way which I think you mean. They burn up engineers. What good to them is a burnt out engineer? Who cares, hire another one? It's eerily like the military using up soldiers, and I doubt it's an accident. They're maximizing output for their money and they don't care if it makes the engineers suicidal or quit. They can always get more.
BeetleB 5y ago
> they did hire the correct people, but working there is so unpleasant that very few people decide to stick around. There are plenty of Amazonians who can handle the culture and stay much longer. It's clear they are not hiring those who can do. It's not an "alternative" hypothesis, but the same one. They haven't figured out how to identify those who can handle it. And this, given how heavily behavioral their interview is.
- Dudeman112 5y ago
  If they need people who are immune to how much shit their work environment is, they should fix their work environment instead of selecting those who are fine with Victorian sweatshop-like conditions. If the problem was a loud office you'd say they should select for deaf engineers instead of fixing their shit.

ummonk 5y ago

That's how long they can milk the employees with demanding work expectations until the backloaded vesting kicks in.