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I worked at a FAANG for 3 years and I'm pretty sure no one I worked with was on a PIP. A PIP is extreme. It's sufficient to simply not give people raises, most

I worked at a FAANG for 3 years and I'm pretty sure no one I worked with was on a PIP. A PIP is extreme. It's sufficient to simply not give people raises, most people can and will easily find another job earning 10% more.

doktorhladnjak 5y ago
How would you really know? People don't usually talk publicly about their PIP. I went from long time IC to manager at a faang adjacent company. It was eye opening to see who was on a PIP and go through calibrations. There were well liked, competent people who others on the team got along with but they just were not delivering at the expected level. Sometimes the problem was lack of motivation or bad role fit.
- asveikau 5y ago
  > but they just were not delivering at the expected level. Sometimes the problem was lack of motivation or bad role fit. Another i think is when management doesn't understand that someone is, in your wording, a "well liked, competent person", doesn't adequately understand what they bring to the team. Performance reviews, especially of ICs but not exclusively, have a bias towards perceived individual contribution and against teamwork.
- google234123 5y ago
  Um, this is an antonymous forum, wouldn't you expect many comments from people that were PIPed if it was a very common thing?
  - doktorhladnjak 5y ago
    Sure, but that doesn't give you any information about your particular company or team. In my experience, how aggressive companies are about "performance management" (using PIPs but this can also include other strategies like layoffs and outright firing) varies quite a lot.
gusgus01 5y ago
I've worked at a FAANG for almost 5 years. I know probably a dozen or two people who have been PIP'd. I even know one guy who was PIP'd twice and then left when he was given his third PIP.
nsxwolf 5y ago
This sounds awful. Disrespectful. Glad I never worked for a FAANG.
jboggan 5y ago
The smartest person I ever met at Google got PIP'ed, and a few of the engineers from my vintage did as well.

doktorhladnjak 5y ago

How would you really know? People don't usually talk publicly about their PIP. I went from long time IC to manager at a faang adjacent company. It was eye opening to see who was on a PIP and go through calibrations. There were well liked, competent people who others on the team got along with but they just were not delivering at the expected level. Sometimes the problem was lack of motivation or bad role fit.

asveikau 5y ago
> but they just were not delivering at the expected level. Sometimes the problem was lack of motivation or bad role fit. Another i think is when management doesn't understand that someone is, in your wording, a "well liked, competent person", doesn't adequately understand what they bring to the team. Performance reviews, especially of ICs but not exclusively, have a bias towards perceived individual contribution and against teamwork.
google234123 5y ago
Um, this is an antonymous forum, wouldn't you expect many comments from people that were PIPed if it was a very common thing?
- doktorhladnjak 5y ago
  Sure, but that doesn't give you any information about your particular company or team. In my experience, how aggressive companies are about "performance management" (using PIPs but this can also include other strategies like layoffs and outright firing) varies quite a lot.

gusgus01 5y ago

I've worked at a FAANG for almost 5 years. I know probably a dozen or two people who have been PIP'd. I even know one guy who was PIP'd twice and then left when he was given his third PIP.

nsxwolf 5y ago

This sounds awful. Disrespectful. Glad I never worked for a FAANG.

jboggan 5y ago

The smartest person I ever met at Google got PIP'ed, and a few of the engineers from my vintage did as well.