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> I would hire you to do 30 hours of contract work where we pair program on real life things. You say this as if most (or any) candidates could do this. If yo
by autarch 5y ago
> I would hire you to do 30 hours of contract work where we pair program on real life things.
You say this as if most (or any) candidates could do this.
If you currently have a job, then you almost certainly won't have time for this, unless you're single with no hobbies. If you do have time, you may not be allowed to moonlight under your current employment contract.
And if you don't have a job, you _still_ may not have the time or desire to do this!
I'm currently jobless (by choice - I wanted a break) and I started interviewing a few weeks ago. It's exhausting! Even if I could squeeze in 30 hours of work over a couple of weeks, I wouldn't want to. I had 11.5 hours of interviews this past week, and now you want me to spend another 10-15 hours pair programming with you? Absolutely not.
If you spread those hours out over many weeks (6 weeks at 5 hours per week) the candidate will be done with the process everywhere else much sooner and they'll just accept an offer before this process finishes.
If you want a trial period, make an offer and have a 3-month probation period during which you will give the new hire regular feedback (at least once a month but more often is better). Doesn't every company do this already, at least implicitly?
- 0des 5y agoDo you generally have this mindset because you are very successful or is there another track record element I'm missing? I don't recognize the username and wanted to understand your response better.
- whimsicalism 5y agoI don't understand this response? This is going to be the standard mindset for any experienced engineer in the Bay area, at minimum.
- autarch 5y agoYes, to echo the other response, I don't think my mindset is unusual. What you're suggesting is too much for most candidates. Also, it's a candidate's market right now, at least for experienced devs like myself. I'm getting a good amount of interest in my applications and nowhere I've applied has asked for anything close to 30 hours of my time (5-7 hours total is typical).