I agree with this - its a very good approach generally to 'meet in the middle' during a conflict, but that becomes very hard when one side is scientific and ano

I agree with this - its a very good approach generally to 'meet in the middle' during a conflict, but that becomes very hard when one side is scientific and another is pure outright lies, wishful thinking, fears and generally mostly negative emotions which seemingly many adults have issues managing. Same would go say for Ukraine invasion - from moderate 'alternative truth' folks weakly defending russian invasion as 'forced by the west'. I would require so much mental gymnastics to accept this as some middle ground it would break my proverbial mental neck. Entire pillars of progress of what mankind achieved till 21st century included need to be abandoned to find middle ground in such cases. Just because some folks can't handle their emotional side of their being which can be very easily used to steer them (well anybody in such situation) as needed. You want to have productive discussion with somebody like me? Let's bring out the facts, proven, peer-reviewed if possible. There is no 'alternative truth', just alternatives to truth.