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Our take on this case: http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002249.html http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002249.html Also, we decided to detect i

Our take on this case: http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002249.html http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002249.html Also, we decided to detect it.

stfu 15y ago
> Also, we decided to detect it. How generous...
- 46Bit 15y ago
  Unfortunately as time goes on this might be not as free-will a decision. The right of law enforcement to breach our computers for the 'good of the public' will probably only get worse.
  - wnight 15y ago
    It's already there for many unsuspecting users. You have to root your iPhone to begin to investigate what might be spying, let alone stopping it, and Apple is doing their best to make the phone unrootable. Soon it won't be (practically) possible. And not just Apple, they're just one of the first with effective lock-in, and market-share. Soon having programming/debugging tools could be ample evidence of intent to criminally (the only way) access a computing device.
- mcantelon 15y ago
  The ability of commercial anti-virus vendors to decide what end users are protected against is a good argument for open source anti-virus that crowdsources detection patterns.
  - stfu 15y ago
    This is a very good point. I have always been a bit sceptically on the anti-virus companies. The market looks a bit odd to me - different from many other software markets. A lot of regional market domination. Norton in the US, Kaspersky in the RU or ANTIVIR in GER. Looks almost like certain nations prefer having their "own" anti-virus company structures in place. Are there any serious anti-virus open source alternatives available?
    - keeperofdakeys 15y ago
      There is ClamAV, although I don't know if it supports on-access scanning these days (it always used to be manual scanning). I also don't know how the definitions are sourced.
    - 0x12 15y ago
      New rule: get your AV solution from a country other than your own. That should cover most of those cases.

Our take on this case: http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002249.html http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002249.html Also, we decided to detect it.

stfu 15y ago

> Also, we decided to detect it. How generous...

46Bit 15y ago
Unfortunately as time goes on this might be not as free-will a decision. The right of law enforcement to breach our computers for the 'good of the public' will probably only get worse.
- wnight 15y ago
  It's already there for many unsuspecting users. You have to root your iPhone to begin to investigate what might be spying, let alone stopping it, and Apple is doing their best to make the phone unrootable. Soon it won't be (practically) possible. And not just Apple, they're just one of the first with effective lock-in, and market-share. Soon having programming/debugging tools could be ample evidence of intent to criminally (the only way) access a computing device.
mcantelon 15y ago
The ability of commercial anti-virus vendors to decide what end users are protected against is a good argument for open source anti-virus that crowdsources detection patterns.
- stfu 15y ago
  This is a very good point. I have always been a bit sceptically on the anti-virus companies. The market looks a bit odd to me - different from many other software markets. A lot of regional market domination. Norton in the US, Kaspersky in the RU or ANTIVIR in GER. Looks almost like certain nations prefer having their "own" anti-virus company structures in place. Are there any serious anti-virus open source alternatives available?
  - keeperofdakeys 15y ago
    There is ClamAV, although I don't know if it supports on-access scanning these days (it always used to be manual scanning). I also don't know how the definitions are sourced.
  - 0x12 15y ago
    New rule: get your AV solution from a country other than your own. That should cover most of those cases.