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People generally don't like imperialist apologia. You can certainly criticise NATO, but if you're using criticism of NATO to imply that they're the bad actors i
by beaconstudios 5y ago
People generally don't like imperialist apologia. You can certainly criticise NATO, but if you're using criticism of NATO to imply that they're the bad actors in the invasion of Ukraine, you're going to get called out on it.
- pastacacioepepe 5y agoThat's exactly what I'm referring to, thanks for providing an example.
- beaconstudios 5y agoSo what, you think that Russia invading Ukraine is a defensive war against NATO aggression? How can an invasion be defensive? I'm not "cancelling" you here by the way, more just calling you wrong. Just like other people appear to be doing so, but sure, if you want to be a victim over it then that's your choice I guess.
- yywwbbn 5y agoSo please share how exactly do you think NATO instigated this conflict and left Russia no other choice but to start this absurd war?
- pastacacioepepe 5y ago
- yywwbbn 5y agoThanks, but you sound like the last person I’d want to take a history lesson from. Btw, why do you presume I don’t know anything about the history of Ukrainian Russia relations? : D
- beaconstudios 5y ago"Although the United States has many wars of aggression on its conscience, it doesn’t justify Mr. Putin’s aggression in Ukraine. A dozen wrongs don’t make a right. Russia was wrong to invade." - Oliver Stone
- pastacacioepepe 5y agoI don't really care about mr. Stone's opinion, I care about the facts he exposed.
- beaconstudios 5y agoEven though the Azov battalion is a fascist group, there is broader fascist sentiment in Ukraine and NATO were in talks with Ukraine, that doesn't change the fact that "de-Nazification" is an excuse for an imperial exercise. But then again, you seem to be OK with imperialism as long as its done by countries opposed to NATO and the US, like Russia. Are you a tankie or something?
- everybodyknows 5y ago> Ukraine on fire Haven't seen it myself, so no comment other than this curiosity: Released in 2016 ... https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5724358/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5724358/ ... But not to be confused with 2015's Winter On Fire, which the IMDB reviewers rated a bit higher: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4908644/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4908644/
- madaxe_again 5y ago… no. You aren’t being arrested for treason, you’re welcome to make an ass of yourself, and while you’re disagreed with, you’re neither censored or censured for it. In Russia, you would face very real consequences for disagreeing with the party line.
- xtian 5y agoWhich party?
- tim333 5y agore >The liberal strategy to silence anyone opposing NATO and the escalation of war is to label them as traitors I'm genuinely curious as to whether that has ever happened, that someone opposing NATO has been called a traitor. Do you have an example? I wonder who I'd betraying if I opposed NATO.