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Even if you do show compassion, it is usually extremely one directional. Eventually that gets hard to keep doing so, and you just give up on them. I found tryi
by myrryr 5y ago
Even if you do show compassion, it is usually extremely one directional. Eventually that gets hard to keep doing so, and you just give up on them.
I found trying to deal with them with compassion was a cast of setting yourself on fire to keep someone else warm.
Sooner or later you just have to leave them to their world views, and just accept that it will go badly for them.
As Keith Ng put it
"You can't just keep saying we have to acknowledge the hurt and the sense of alienation that the antivax protesters have felt without acknowledging the feelings we have about them
A sense of betrayal - the idea that a national project to defend ourselves is being actively undermined by them, for either entirely crazy or entirely unexplained ("it's my choice") reasons.
A sense of threat - they used violence and intimidation to assert their power.
A sense of provocation - when they keep insisting that we are stupid, cowardly, blindly obedient sheeple, that they are the smart ones, the brave ones, the ones who are truly free, yeah, that makes me angry.
The Big Clean-up was my way of addressing that anger and frustration without giving into it.
That anger is unproductive, but it's not unwarranted. And it needs to be acknowledged, every bit as much as the protesters' feelings of hurt, isolation and abandonment.
But when you acknowledge their feelings and not ours, say that theirs is legitimate at some level then be silent on ours, and not acknowledge all the things that they've done that have led us to this place of anger - that's not reconciliation, that's digging the hole deeper.
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- saiya-jin 5y agoI agree with this - its a very good approach generally to 'meet in the middle' during a conflict, but that becomes very hard when one side is scientific and another is pure outright lies, wishful thinking, fears and generally mostly negative emotions which seemingly many adults have issues managing. Same would go say for Ukraine invasion - from moderate 'alternative truth' folks weakly defending russian invasion as 'forced by the west'. I would require so much mental gymnastics to accept this as some middle ground it would break my proverbial mental neck. Entire pillars of progress of what mankind achieved till 21st century included need to be abandoned to find middle ground in such cases. Just because some folks can't handle their emotional side of their being which can be very easily used to steer them (well anybody in such situation) as needed. You want to have productive discussion with somebody like me? Let's bring out the facts, proven, peer-reviewed if possible. There is no 'alternative truth', just alternatives to truth.