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You haven't described what is it that you hate about your jobs so much. Bureaucracy? Office politics? Type of work you get assigned? Meetings? Tech debt? Obsole

You haven't described what is it that you hate about your jobs so much. Bureaucracy? Office politics? Type of work you get assigned? Meetings? Tech debt? Obsolete tech stack? Hard to suggest something without knowing.

charles_f 5y ago
First one was a mix of all powerful people getting product in a pointless direction, and totally inflexible to suggestions. Second was waterfall dictatorship, mixed with "talent management" requiring managers to fire people every year, mixed with legacy shit that would never get funding to be fixed. Third (now) is a mismatch between what I signed up for in scope and manager (both got changed shortly after I joined), incompetence of product management, lack of belief for what we are building, and no interest to our proposal of pivoting to something actually crucial and meaningful. We see the forest in fire with dinosaurs attacking leprosic people, we're volunteering with extinguishers, machine guns, and arm long firefighting/dinosaur taming/medical qualifications, and the only answer I get is "oh cool, throw glasses of water at the fire after work, but please do focus on building the new community center in the middle of nowhere". There's a lot of admin, a lot of meetings, but I could cope with that if at the end of the day what we're working on was meaningful
- monster_group 5y ago
  No job will be perfect. There will be some of what you described in most jobs. It is important to figure out what matters to you the most and optimize for that while looking for job. For example - I am currently in the process of quitting my FAANG job for slightly less compensation mostly because I am tired of countless meetings, HR trainings and glacial pace at which software development works at large corporations because of the sheer number of approvals and dependencies required. I am going to smaller company to do interesting work with hopefully less red tape and less meetings where I can build stuff rather than sit in meetings all day and rubber stamp a bunch of stuff. You can do something similar. Be upfront with the interviewing company about what matters to you and interview with companies that offer you that. Also, try not to tie your self worth and happiness to your job. If you have a good and happy life outside of work, you will start to see your job as a means that makes that outside work life possible and it won't be as frustrating.

charles_f 5y ago

First one was a mix of all powerful people getting product in a pointless direction, and totally inflexible to suggestions. Second was waterfall dictatorship, mixed with "talent management" requiring managers to fire people every year, mixed with legacy shit that would never get funding to be fixed. Third (now) is a mismatch between what I signed up for in scope and manager (both got changed shortly after I joined), incompetence of product management, lack of belief for what we are building, and no interest to our proposal of pivoting to something actually crucial and meaningful. We see the forest in fire with dinosaurs attacking leprosic people, we're volunteering with extinguishers, machine guns, and arm long firefighting/dinosaur taming/medical qualifications, and the only answer I get is "oh cool, throw glasses of water at the fire after work, but please do focus on building the new community center in the middle of nowhere". There's a lot of admin, a lot of meetings, but I could cope with that if at the end of the day what we're working on was meaningful

monster_group 5y ago
No job will be perfect. There will be some of what you described in most jobs. It is important to figure out what matters to you the most and optimize for that while looking for job. For example - I am currently in the process of quitting my FAANG job for slightly less compensation mostly because I am tired of countless meetings, HR trainings and glacial pace at which software development works at large corporations because of the sheer number of approvals and dependencies required. I am going to smaller company to do interesting work with hopefully less red tape and less meetings where I can build stuff rather than sit in meetings all day and rubber stamp a bunch of stuff. You can do something similar. Be upfront with the interviewing company about what matters to you and interview with companies that offer you that. Also, try not to tie your self worth and happiness to your job. If you have a good and happy life outside of work, you will start to see your job as a means that makes that outside work life possible and it won't be as frustrating.