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Autism is not an emotional cycle, it's not a circumstantial state it's a disorder determined by genetics. Either you got the genes, or you don't. Pretty binar

Autism is not an emotional cycle, it's not a circumstantial state it's a disorder determined by genetics. Either you got the genes, or you don't. Pretty binary.

KennyBlanken 5y ago
> It's a disorder determined by genetics. This is wildly inaccurate. > Either you got the genes, or you don't. Pretty binary. Even more wildly inaccurate. It's not remotely binary. There is no autism gene or genes. Environmental factors (nurture) still factor heavily. https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/autism-genetics-explained/ https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/autism-genetics-explained/ and a myriad of other articles and research papers one can find by googling "genetics autism."
- bawolff 5y ago
  > This is wildly inaccurate. "Wildly" might be an overstatement. As your own link says, genetics are a significant (but not the only) factor. I agree the whole binary thing is BS, but i think what the poster was originally trying to dispute is that its all in people's head as an emotional state, which is also clearly very wrong.
- twoneurons 5y ago
  sure, and if there's half a dozen cases of autism in my family, it's because of what we eat (environment)
simne 5y ago
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- bawolff 5y ago
  Umm no. There is a lot of things we don't know about autism. One thing we definitely do know is that it is not caused by vaccines. We know this as this has been well studied due to the whole vaccine conspiracy theory.
prithvi24 5y ago
Just had to call out a nuance here - Disorder is an extremely strong word. People living with ASD are not "weird" or "abnormal" in anyway whatsoever, they are just different. As a society, we accept people's genetically predetermined sexual orientation, regardless of whether it represents the majority. ASD is no different, lets avoid calling it a disorder.
- perardi 5y ago
  To slap down my lived experience: gay and on the spectrum. And the spectrum part is definitely a disorder. It’s a deep-down and profound inability to connect. We are a fundamentally social species, to a fundamental inability to get socialization at a visceral level is pretty disordered.
- twoneurons 5y ago
  ASD: Autism spectrum disorder Though I agree, in certain aspects is a super-power. In certain aspects it's a hampering disability. Semantics.
- brigandish 5y ago
  Disorder is a medical term that means an illness that disrupts normal physical or mental functions. This describes autism but not homosexuality (which, I was not aware, has now been declared to be of entirely genetic basis?) Even if they were to both fit the definition, I’m not sure what the objection to the word is.
BurningFrog 5y ago
If this is true, where can I read about these specific genes, when and how they were discovered?
Tao331 5y ago

Autism is not an emotional cycle, it's not a circumstantial state it's a disorder determined by genetics. Either you got the genes, or you don't. Pretty binary.

KennyBlanken 5y ago

> It's a disorder determined by genetics. This is wildly inaccurate. > Either you got the genes, or you don't. Pretty binary. Even more wildly inaccurate. It's not remotely binary. There is no autism gene or genes. Environmental factors (nurture) still factor heavily. https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/autism-genetics-explained/ https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/autism-genetics-explained/ and a myriad of other articles and research papers one can find by googling "genetics autism."

bawolff 5y ago
> This is wildly inaccurate. "Wildly" might be an overstatement. As your own link says, genetics are a significant (but not the only) factor. I agree the whole binary thing is BS, but i think what the poster was originally trying to dispute is that its all in people's head as an emotional state, which is also clearly very wrong.
twoneurons 5y ago
sure, and if there's half a dozen cases of autism in my family, it's because of what we eat (environment)

simne 5y ago

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bawolff 5y ago
Umm no. There is a lot of things we don't know about autism. One thing we definitely do know is that it is not caused by vaccines. We know this as this has been well studied due to the whole vaccine conspiracy theory.

prithvi24 5y ago

Just had to call out a nuance here - Disorder is an extremely strong word. People living with ASD are not "weird" or "abnormal" in anyway whatsoever, they are just different. As a society, we accept people's genetically predetermined sexual orientation, regardless of whether it represents the majority. ASD is no different, lets avoid calling it a disorder.

perardi 5y ago
To slap down my lived experience: gay and on the spectrum. And the spectrum part is definitely a disorder. It’s a deep-down and profound inability to connect. We are a fundamentally social species, to a fundamental inability to get socialization at a visceral level is pretty disordered.
twoneurons 5y ago
ASD: Autism spectrum disorder Though I agree, in certain aspects is a super-power. In certain aspects it's a hampering disability. Semantics.
brigandish 5y ago
Disorder is a medical term that means an illness that disrupts normal physical or mental functions. This describes autism but not homosexuality (which, I was not aware, has now been declared to be of entirely genetic basis?) Even if they were to both fit the definition, I’m not sure what the objection to the word is.

BurningFrog 5y ago

If this is true, where can I read about these specific genes, when and how they were discovered?

Tao331 5y ago