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I'm not sure if this applies to this situation - this individual was working on it full time, as a co-founder of a startup. They wanted to continue working on i

I'm not sure if this applies to this situation - this individual was working on it full time, as a co-founder of a startup. They wanted to continue working on it in their spare time after finding a new job, but their co-founder didn't want them involved anymore. I don't think the open source nature really comes into it, they wished to continue working on their baby, which is totally understandable.

bodge5000 5y ago
Absolutely, if they're happy with their situation (or I guess, were happy with it), I'm in no place to say its wrong. But it does seem to place streinous demands on the people working on it. Afterall, the story does end with him being forced to abandon his own baby, not entirely of his own choice. That doesn't sound like a normal side project to me, but I'm likely out of touch with big FOSS
Brian_K_White 5y ago
That is not necessarily quite what happened either. I was more convinced by the other developers position previously on this. But that just means we and everyone else but these two people themselves are just picking sides, not necessarily actually seeing and evaluating right/wrong/good/bad/fair/unfair etc. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30611748 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30611748 I don't mean to say I agree with that article. (Well, most of it is just reporting which is fine, but there are a few small added conclusions at the end) My own comment on that article was that I read it and arrived at an opposite conclusion from the author. And someone else supplied some enlightening background about history between these two and the author.
- LordDragonfang 5y ago
  The "enlightening background about history between these two and the author" mentioned above: >Keep in mind that the author [Bryan Lunduke] is not neutral here: Since he's expressed his position against trans people, and by doing that parted ways with Danielle Foré before (who previously identified as Daniel Foré and participated in his youtube videos), and also you can see that [the article] refuses to use the actual name for Danielle; it's not surprising that he wants to reach a conclusion against her. Edit: Since there seems to be some confusion, this is about the author of the OP post linked in the comment above, not the OP link of this HN thread.
  - burnished 5y ago
    EDIT: I thought you were referring to TFA, 'Farewell, elementary' and not 'elementary OS is imploding'. My mistake.
  - jamie_ca 5y ago
    Given her twitter handle is DaniElainaFore I don't think it's unreasonable that Cassidy calls her Dani in this post, after working closely together for what, 7 years? Is there more context? (edit: nvm, found the tweetstorm from last month https://lunduke.substack.com/p/elementary-os-is-imploding?s=r https://lunduke.substack.com/p/elementary-os-is-imploding?s=... that goes into some details)
    - LordDragonfang 5y ago
      Yes, that's the OP of the HN post that's linked to in the comment I'm replying to.
  - NylaTheWolf 5y ago
    I was thinking about that article and how Lunduke deadnamed Danielle just the other day. I had no idea who these people were and I was shocked that I didn't even know Danielle was trans until I skimmed through the HN comments the next day. That's...yikes.

bodge5000 5y ago

Absolutely, if they're happy with their situation (or I guess, were happy with it), I'm in no place to say its wrong. But it does seem to place streinous demands on the people working on it. Afterall, the story does end with him being forced to abandon his own baby, not entirely of his own choice. That doesn't sound like a normal side project to me, but I'm likely out of touch with big FOSS

Brian_K_White 5y ago

That is not necessarily quite what happened either. I was more convinced by the other developers position previously on this. But that just means we and everyone else but these two people themselves are just picking sides, not necessarily actually seeing and evaluating right/wrong/good/bad/fair/unfair etc. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30611748 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30611748 I don't mean to say I agree with that article. (Well, most of it is just reporting which is fine, but there are a few small added conclusions at the end) My own comment on that article was that I read it and arrived at an opposite conclusion from the author. And someone else supplied some enlightening background about history between these two and the author.

LordDragonfang 5y ago
The "enlightening background about history between these two and the author" mentioned above: >Keep in mind that the author [Bryan Lunduke] is not neutral here: Since he's expressed his position against trans people, and by doing that parted ways with Danielle Foré before (who previously identified as Daniel Foré and participated in his youtube videos), and also you can see that [the article] refuses to use the actual name for Danielle; it's not surprising that he wants to reach a conclusion against her. Edit: Since there seems to be some confusion, this is about the author of the OP post linked in the comment above, not the OP link of this HN thread.
- burnished 5y ago
  EDIT: I thought you were referring to TFA, 'Farewell, elementary' and not 'elementary OS is imploding'. My mistake.
- jamie_ca 5y ago
  Given her twitter handle is DaniElainaFore I don't think it's unreasonable that Cassidy calls her Dani in this post, after working closely together for what, 7 years? Is there more context? (edit: nvm, found the tweetstorm from last month https://lunduke.substack.com/p/elementary-os-is-imploding?s=r https://lunduke.substack.com/p/elementary-os-is-imploding?s=... that goes into some details)
  - LordDragonfang 5y ago
    Yes, that's the OP of the HN post that's linked to in the comment I'm replying to.
- NylaTheWolf 5y ago
  I was thinking about that article and how Lunduke deadnamed Danielle just the other day. I had no idea who these people were and I was shocked that I didn't even know Danielle was trans until I skimmed through the HN comments the next day. That's...yikes.