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I wonder if the folks at Elementary targeted businesses with a "Elementary OS Professional" version. Is pretty hard to get regular people to pay for an operatin

I wonder if the folks at Elementary targeted businesses with a "Elementary OS Professional" version. Is pretty hard to get regular people to pay for an operating system when they don't need to, either because the competition is fierce (Zorin, Ubuntu, Mint, Deepin, ...), or because they can choose to donate 0 dollars. I have never seen an app in their custom App Store that will attract me enough to pay for it. The OS itself is pretty neat. I think they should have tried to get government entities, schools, or hospitals to use their OS, so they can have a decent income stream.

twblalock 5y ago
A business wants business-level support. It looks like the core Elementary team was just two people. The length of time between releases makes me think they were understaffed for a while. A business would rather get support from a larger distro with a larger support team. That market already has a number of established vendors: Red Hat, Oracle Enterprise Linux, Amazon Linux, Ubuntu server...
bodge5000 5y ago
For me at least, the problem comes in with when you ask for a donation. When I first downloaded Godot, I didn't donate because I had no idea if I'd even use it for long. After a year or so of using it, I came across various reminders to donate, and eventually I did (if I'm completely honest, literally just now). But most people will never come across that prompt again and will forget any need to. Its the same case with Elementary, or any other distro I've tried out. Why pay if I dont know if I'll even use it? That being said, I can't think of any better way of asking without being obtrusive to the user. I guess you could have some really pointless badge or something you unlock by donating which could help prompt users later down the line, but I cant imagine the FOSS community would be a big supporter of that.
- jll29 5y ago
  I would have happily paid them to add a "minimize window" button. Frankly, that's the only think I was ever missing while using E. on my main Linux laptop for the last two years. It has been a pretty slick experience, and that's remarkable given the general state of Linux on the desktop (admittedly, I may be more of a command line person, but still). So maybe instead of "donate", try "pay for getting your very own feature implemented"?
  - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
    > So maybe instead of "donate", try "pay for getting your very own feature implemented"? 1. If you're effectively hiring a developer to work on a custom feature for you, including the future costs of maintenance and code complexity, the price is going to be very high. 2. The lack of a minimize button was a UX decision. You can disagree with the decision, but if elementary implemented every feature that people with money requested, you probably wouldn't like the resulting UI. Or maybe you would, but elementary would be a very different sort of distro.
- gurkendoktor 5y ago
  elementary's daily/preview builds are only accessible to GitHub sponsors over a certain amount. I wonder how that worked out, because I like this pseudo-subscription model a lot better, and wish AppCenter could even figure out that I'm a supporter and redistribute some of my $$$ to apps that I often use.
mackrevinack 5y ago
if they do they will already have some competition from zorin. they released a thing last year that lets businesses/schools manage multiple machines remotely https://zorin.com/grid https://zorin.com/grid
- masterof0 5y ago
  They would be a great competitor for Zorin. Is ok to have competition.

twblalock 5y ago

A business wants business-level support. It looks like the core Elementary team was just two people. The length of time between releases makes me think they were understaffed for a while. A business would rather get support from a larger distro with a larger support team. That market already has a number of established vendors: Red Hat, Oracle Enterprise Linux, Amazon Linux, Ubuntu server...

bodge5000 5y ago

For me at least, the problem comes in with when you ask for a donation. When I first downloaded Godot, I didn't donate because I had no idea if I'd even use it for long. After a year or so of using it, I came across various reminders to donate, and eventually I did (if I'm completely honest, literally just now). But most people will never come across that prompt again and will forget any need to. Its the same case with Elementary, or any other distro I've tried out. Why pay if I dont know if I'll even use it? That being said, I can't think of any better way of asking without being obtrusive to the user. I guess you could have some really pointless badge or something you unlock by donating which could help prompt users later down the line, but I cant imagine the FOSS community would be a big supporter of that.

jll29 5y ago
I would have happily paid them to add a "minimize window" button. Frankly, that's the only think I was ever missing while using E. on my main Linux laptop for the last two years. It has been a pretty slick experience, and that's remarkable given the general state of Linux on the desktop (admittedly, I may be more of a command line person, but still). So maybe instead of "donate", try "pay for getting your very own feature implemented"?
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago
  > So maybe instead of "donate", try "pay for getting your very own feature implemented"? 1. If you're effectively hiring a developer to work on a custom feature for you, including the future costs of maintenance and code complexity, the price is going to be very high. 2. The lack of a minimize button was a UX decision. You can disagree with the decision, but if elementary implemented every feature that people with money requested, you probably wouldn't like the resulting UI. Or maybe you would, but elementary would be a very different sort of distro.
gurkendoktor 5y ago
elementary's daily/preview builds are only accessible to GitHub sponsors over a certain amount. I wonder how that worked out, because I like this pseudo-subscription model a lot better, and wish AppCenter could even figure out that I'm a supporter and redistribute some of my $$$ to apps that I often use.

mackrevinack 5y ago

if they do they will already have some competition from zorin. they released a thing last year that lets businesses/schools manage multiple machines remotely https://zorin.com/grid https://zorin.com/grid

masterof0 5y ago
They would be a great competitor for Zorin. Is ok to have competition.