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The Linux desktop is a lost cause and the author is better off moving to other things. Not only is desktop a dying segment, but it requires the largest amount o
by ilovecaching 5y ago
The Linux desktop is a lost cause and the author is better off moving to other things. Not only is desktop a dying segment, but it requires the largest amount of work on driver support (why is my six year old off brand printer not working?), is filled with proprietary apps and companies that make money selling software to end customers who have no incentive to port to Linux (Adobe/Serif are why I still have to keep a Windows VM sitting around), and it requires constant work to keep things working on top of every graphics stack, one of which is famously proprietary (NVIDIA please just open source your drivers already) which reduces the incentives of using Linux in the first place.
You also have GNOME shipping on Fedora and Ubuntu which most new users are going to download, which can't even get their stuff together enough to put a freaking dock and activity indicator on the desktop without having to completely switch to a different activities screen. Asking for a dock will literally get you hung in the village square as people assert that normal users want to use keyboard shortcuts. Everything on the Linux desktop has to either be old fashion or eclectic and tailored to the tech enthusiasts already using it (one of the things that Elementary was actually solving). I tried getting my dad to use GNOME and he gave up after five minutes to go back to his Mac (I can't even launch an app?). It's a mess. Every other distro is basically being held together by a scrappy group of volunteers that are supposed to compete against millions of dollars of investment and armys of full time employees.
I feel bad for Elementary. They made a good product that was actually sane for people coming from MS/A, but they were never going to turn it into something super profitable or even sway companies like Adobe etc. to get their apps running natively on Linux.
This isn't doom and gloom about Linux. Linux owns computing. It's more about how Desktop is niche and not even worth getting into at this point, and how the author has much to gain by just walking away and moving on to other ventures.
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You can downvote all you want if it brings you catharsis, but you know I'm right. The year of the Linux desktop isn't right around the corner, just like it wasn't right around the corner last year, or the year before that. Linux desktops will always be for enthusiasts, students who want to learn Linux, or people who have to use outdated hardware, which is honestly the way it should be so that Linux keeps its identity and doesn't become yet another replaceable component in a proprietary stack like it is on Android (I'm looking at you Fuchsia).
And no, it doesn't matter that you're reading this right now on Sway using lynx and your mother and sister are using Ubuntu that you installed for them. You are on HN. You are not the segment that makes Linux desktops a lucrative business idea. A software engineer needs to know how to think about market segments and the normal user use cases and not be completely self absorbed into how the world works for them.
- fartcannon 5y agoNonsense. For anyone paying attention, it's been the year of desktop Linux since KDE 3.5. And it's only getting better.
- davidandgoliath 5y agoAnd fedora is amazing. OP has no idea what's going on.
- ilovecaching 5y agoWell I work on the kernel for a living, so I feel like I have at least some idea. The quality of a distro on your hardware has nothing to do with it. I don't think you understood anything I said about why it's a failed segment.
- 3np 5y agoSaying desktop is "dying" implies it will go away to the point of becoming insignificant. This is ridiculous - what would fill the gap for gamers, creators, professionals, business, and engineers? Tablets, gaming consoles and phones? Shrinking segment, absolutely. Especially for the casual home-user segment. But leading with exaggerated flamebait is not welcome here, as I'm sure you are aware.
- bee_rider 5y agoLinux on the desktop works basically fine for people who are technically inclined and have any interest in Linux, less well for people who aren't and don't, and there doesn't appear to be any effective movement in changing the status quo. Getting volunteer coders to work in the customer-service style that is required to make a desktop for non-technical people just doesn't seem to work. And turning a volunteer community into a profit seeking one usually seems to hit these roadblocks. We should just accept that success for Linux on the desktop looks like what we have now. Which seems fine to me. Everyone who wants it has it. Unending lust for growth is a trait of megacoroprations and cancers, not great company to keep IMO.