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Why would any company actually want to do this when they could just get non union labor in any of the thousands of right-to-work cities?

JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> Why would any company actually want to do this when they could just get non union labor in any of the thousands of right-to-work cities? Because they can't. Not easily, not certainly. If you've been given direction to quickly deploy a warehouse, being able to sign a single agreement and know you have your work force is valuable. (The alternative involves creating a hiring pipeline, staffing it, running it and lining all of that up with everything else. If you're a scaling company that's a lot of non-core B.S.) Put another way, all business is bundling and unbundling. A recently-fired union is a bundle of labor. That isn't valuable to everyone. But it's definitely valuable to at least some labor buyers.
whimsicalism 5y ago
Presumably you still need to fulfill shipping needs in New York because people still buy things there.
gregshap 5y ago
It’s a last-mile facility for service to NYC.
Spooky23 5y ago
It's expensive to do business in those sorts of places. Alabama lost a Toyota plant to Ontario because literacy is so poor they would need to translate their documentation into Ikea-like pictograms.
- briandear 5y ago
  That’s false. That decision had to do with currency values not literacy. https://www.motortrend.com/news/suv-shuffle-mdx-production-moves-to-alabama-cr-v-goes-to-ontario-139505/amp/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/suv-shuffle-mdx-production-m...
  - Spooky23 5y ago
    That’s Honda. The Toyota RAV-4 decision was made back in 2005. In don’t think education has improved in Alabama since. Also, IIRC, the higher Canadian wages were partially offset by not having to provide health benefits. I cite it as I’m somewhat familiar with it as a friend and colleague worked for a supplier pricing out a in-region facility.

JumpCrisscross 5y ago

> Why would any company actually want to do this when they could just get non union labor in any of the thousands of right-to-work cities? Because they can't. Not easily, not certainly. If you've been given direction to quickly deploy a warehouse, being able to sign a single agreement and know you have your work force is valuable. (The alternative involves creating a hiring pipeline, staffing it, running it and lining all of that up with everything else. If you're a scaling company that's a lot of non-core B.S.) Put another way, all business is bundling and unbundling. A recently-fired union is a bundle of labor. That isn't valuable to everyone. But it's definitely valuable to at least some labor buyers.

whimsicalism 5y ago

Presumably you still need to fulfill shipping needs in New York because people still buy things there.

gregshap 5y ago

It’s a last-mile facility for service to NYC.

Spooky23 5y ago

It's expensive to do business in those sorts of places. Alabama lost a Toyota plant to Ontario because literacy is so poor they would need to translate their documentation into Ikea-like pictograms.

briandear 5y ago
That’s false. That decision had to do with currency values not literacy. https://www.motortrend.com/news/suv-shuffle-mdx-production-moves-to-alabama-cr-v-goes-to-ontario-139505/amp/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/suv-shuffle-mdx-production-m...
- Spooky23 5y ago
  That’s Honda. The Toyota RAV-4 decision was made back in 2005. In don’t think education has improved in Alabama since. Also, IIRC, the higher Canadian wages were partially offset by not having to provide health benefits. I cite it as I’m somewhat familiar with it as a friend and colleague worked for a supplier pricing out a in-region facility.