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Affordable insulin is a no-brainer, slam-dunk, overwhelmingly YES piece of legislation. I cannot comprehend the mental gymnastics diabetic republicans must go t

by ecf 5y ago

Affordable insulin is a no-brainer, slam-dunk, overwhelmingly YES piece of legislation. I cannot comprehend the mental gymnastics diabetic republicans must go through on a daily basis.

throw10920 5y ago
This isn't "affordable insulin", it just limits the copay to $35. Pharma companies can keep charging abusively high prices for insulin, and force insurance providers to pay for it[1], which then trickles down to make everyone pay more, while allowing pharma companies to rake in profits. This is socialized medicine + cost disease[2], which I'm surprised and disappointed that anyone voted on at all. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30879824 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30879824 [2] https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/09/considerations-on-cost-disease/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/09/considerations-on-cost...
- ecf 5y ago
- ecf 5y ago
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    No it's revoking the EO that limited prices, causing a price spike, subsidizing prices over $35 with taxpayer money, which goes to the same people gouging prices, which goes to lobbyist, which goes to the politicians. The reason the R's didn't vote for it was the mj poison pill amendment and I guess some didn't get promised the lobbyist payout.
    - ecf 5y ago
      Insulin is going to be cheaper after this. It’s not perfect, it’s not fully subsidized, it’s not single payer healthcare. But it’s SOMETHING, which is a refreshing thing after years and years of the do-nothing R-controlled senate.
      - hunterb123 5y ago
        Prices were truly limited via EO under Trump and revoked by Biden. And, yes it's something, it's LAUNDERING. It's going to be more expensive, but it spreads costs around to hide it. You'll end up paying big pharma just as much, if not more, just lobbyist and politicians are getting a cut in the transaction. Since the insurers are held liable for the cost, government healthcare plans like medicare will be paid by taxpayers. Private insurers will increase their premiums to cover their cost, so you take a hit both ways. Coordinate with big pharma to charge medicare huge costs, have the taxpayers pay them, they pay lobbyist to funnel to politicians. Free $$$ stream!
  - throw10920 5y ago
    > Replying again because, apparently, HN loves to stifle discussion via keyword matching and auto flagging comments. There's no such thing. People flag and downvote your comments, usually for breaking the guidelines[1], and 95% of the time I've seen people make complaints like yours, they're definitely breaking them. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by ecf 5y ago

Affordable insulin is a no-brainer, slam-dunk, overwhelmingly YES piece of legislation. I cannot comprehend the mental gymnastics diabetic republicans must go through on a daily basis.

throw10920 5y ago

This isn't "affordable insulin", it just limits the copay to $35. Pharma companies can keep charging abusively high prices for insulin, and force insurance providers to pay for it[1], which then trickles down to make everyone pay more, while allowing pharma companies to rake in profits. This is socialized medicine + cost disease[2], which I'm surprised and disappointed that anyone voted on at all. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30879824 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30879824 [2] https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/09/considerations-on-cost-disease/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/09/considerations-on-cost...

ecf 5y ago
ecf 5y ago
- hunterb123 5y ago
  No it's revoking the EO that limited prices, causing a price spike, subsidizing prices over $35 with taxpayer money, which goes to the same people gouging prices, which goes to lobbyist, which goes to the politicians. The reason the R's didn't vote for it was the mj poison pill amendment and I guess some didn't get promised the lobbyist payout.
  - ecf 5y ago
    Insulin is going to be cheaper after this. It’s not perfect, it’s not fully subsidized, it’s not single payer healthcare. But it’s SOMETHING, which is a refreshing thing after years and years of the do-nothing R-controlled senate.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      Prices were truly limited via EO under Trump and revoked by Biden. And, yes it's something, it's LAUNDERING. It's going to be more expensive, but it spreads costs around to hide it. You'll end up paying big pharma just as much, if not more, just lobbyist and politicians are getting a cut in the transaction. Since the insurers are held liable for the cost, government healthcare plans like medicare will be paid by taxpayers. Private insurers will increase their premiums to cover their cost, so you take a hit both ways. Coordinate with big pharma to charge medicare huge costs, have the taxpayers pay them, they pay lobbyist to funnel to politicians. Free $$$ stream!
- throw10920 5y ago
  > Replying again because, apparently, HN loves to stifle discussion via keyword matching and auto flagging comments. There's no such thing. People flag and downvote your comments, usually for breaking the guidelines[1], and 95% of the time I've seen people make complaints like yours, they're definitely breaking them. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html