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I prefer running two 144hz 27” 4k monitors instead. Yeah the 5k to 4k scaling isn’t as crisp as native 2x, but god the high refresh rate really makes up for it.

goosedragons 5y ago
Yeah I was wondering this. Would they be ok with 4K scaled to look like 1440p? In my experience it's not too noticeable and still looks better than native 1440p even on Mac. The other big gotcha this monitor has is that like every monitor Apple has made for the past 20 years it only has a single input. It's really tough to find another monitor these days that doesn't have multiple and just can't see any real upside to not having at least an HDMI port (for your Apple TV of course) available.
wodenokoto 5y ago
Is 144hz useful for anything other than gaming?
- goosedragons 5y ago
  Yes, scrolling, mousing, etc. just feels nicer. I wouldn't say it's necessary but neither is 5K.
- dandellion 5y ago
  It's also better for watching videos at 2x speed.
- poyu 5y ago
  All the new M1 MBPs (and the iPad Pro and the iPhone 13 Pro) have 120hz refresh rate. Not exactly 144hz but it matters enough that they put that on the whole product line.
BoxOfRain 5y ago
I really wish I'd never seen a screen with a 144 Hz refresh rate, I've not been able to un-see the difference from my 60 Hz setup ever since! I've done the same with audio, having bought a decent-ish set of speakers makes everything else sound like arse as much as it makes your music sound good.
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  I hear this all the time but across the room from my 60hz XDR is one of the fastest IPS panels ever, a 360hz e-Sports oriented monitor and a 144hz 4k monitor... It takes no appreciable time to adjust when switching between any of the three. Maybe for a split second I notice the mouse cursor and then... nothing. If I were gaming on the XDR it'd be one thing, but it's a productivity monitor. I don't need 144hz (or more) to watch text scroll, and the improved pixel density is 100x more satisfying for productivity usage. In fact if anything I'd say going from 6k to 4k is what's more jarring than going from high refresh to low...
  - kitsunesoba 5y ago
    I feel the same. I have a 240hz AW2721D, 120hz M1 Pro MBP, and a 60hz iMac and adjusting between them is entirely unnoticeable, even though the difference is smoothness is easily visible. Similarly, I see a lot of upset over mouse acceleration curves but I adjust to differences within 5-10 seconds of switching at most and forget about it.
    - Jcowell 5y ago
      Samish set up, same thing. I never notice.
- kinghtown 5y ago
  I recently got a 32 inch LG monitor with 144hz refresh rate for about $375. It’s qhd/2k, and VA panel.. honestly I’m in love with it. At the store I had a really difficult time seeing a big difference from my display or a 4k 27 inch. I feel like tons of people can be very happy and save a bit money if they would just trust their own eyes. Like I don’t doubt the apple display is better but $1000 better?? doubt it.
- sph 5y ago
  Same here, after I've seen my first Retina screen I can't go back to less than 2x scaling. Coding at 1080p is such a poor experience, my desktop is dual 4K 27 inch screens, and I'm on purpose avoiding high refresh rate screens until decent 4K 144Hz monitors exist and I can buy them. There's some out right now but they're either crappy gamer panels, very large and low density, or extremely expensive.
brailsafe 5y ago
I'm surprised about this. I ran a high refresh rate monitor for a while, but I didn't really notice or care in day to day usage compared to picture quality. It was a big meh from me. Nice to have, but wouldn't trade even minor picture quality improvements. I have a 30" 2560x1600 display atm, and definitely wouldn't trade either the quality or the real estate for refresh rate. I'd also take auto KVM over refresh rate, or usb-c single cable docking over refresh rate, but it would still be nice to have

goosedragons 5y ago

Yeah I was wondering this. Would they be ok with 4K scaled to look like 1440p? In my experience it's not too noticeable and still looks better than native 1440p even on Mac. The other big gotcha this monitor has is that like every monitor Apple has made for the past 20 years it only has a single input. It's really tough to find another monitor these days that doesn't have multiple and just can't see any real upside to not having at least an HDMI port (for your Apple TV of course) available.

wodenokoto 5y ago

Is 144hz useful for anything other than gaming?

goosedragons 5y ago
Yes, scrolling, mousing, etc. just feels nicer. I wouldn't say it's necessary but neither is 5K.
dandellion 5y ago
It's also better for watching videos at 2x speed.
poyu 5y ago
All the new M1 MBPs (and the iPad Pro and the iPhone 13 Pro) have 120hz refresh rate. Not exactly 144hz but it matters enough that they put that on the whole product line.

BoxOfRain 5y ago

I really wish I'd never seen a screen with a 144 Hz refresh rate, I've not been able to un-see the difference from my 60 Hz setup ever since! I've done the same with audio, having bought a decent-ish set of speakers makes everything else sound like arse as much as it makes your music sound good.

BoorishBears 5y ago
I hear this all the time but across the room from my 60hz XDR is one of the fastest IPS panels ever, a 360hz e-Sports oriented monitor and a 144hz 4k monitor... It takes no appreciable time to adjust when switching between any of the three. Maybe for a split second I notice the mouse cursor and then... nothing. If I were gaming on the XDR it'd be one thing, but it's a productivity monitor. I don't need 144hz (or more) to watch text scroll, and the improved pixel density is 100x more satisfying for productivity usage. In fact if anything I'd say going from 6k to 4k is what's more jarring than going from high refresh to low...
- kitsunesoba 5y ago
  I feel the same. I have a 240hz AW2721D, 120hz M1 Pro MBP, and a 60hz iMac and adjusting between them is entirely unnoticeable, even though the difference is smoothness is easily visible. Similarly, I see a lot of upset over mouse acceleration curves but I adjust to differences within 5-10 seconds of switching at most and forget about it.
  - Jcowell 5y ago
    Samish set up, same thing. I never notice.
kinghtown 5y ago
I recently got a 32 inch LG monitor with 144hz refresh rate for about $375. It’s qhd/2k, and VA panel.. honestly I’m in love with it. At the store I had a really difficult time seeing a big difference from my display or a 4k 27 inch. I feel like tons of people can be very happy and save a bit money if they would just trust their own eyes. Like I don’t doubt the apple display is better but $1000 better?? doubt it.
sph 5y ago
Same here, after I've seen my first Retina screen I can't go back to less than 2x scaling. Coding at 1080p is such a poor experience, my desktop is dual 4K 27 inch screens, and I'm on purpose avoiding high refresh rate screens until decent 4K 144Hz monitors exist and I can buy them. There's some out right now but they're either crappy gamer panels, very large and low density, or extremely expensive.

brailsafe 5y ago

I'm surprised about this. I ran a high refresh rate monitor for a while, but I didn't really notice or care in day to day usage compared to picture quality. It was a big meh from me. Nice to have, but wouldn't trade even minor picture quality improvements. I have a 30" 2560x1600 display atm, and definitely wouldn't trade either the quality or the real estate for refresh rate. I'd also take auto KVM over refresh rate, or usb-c single cable docking over refresh rate, but it would still be nice to have