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>DoD rules are backwards and that it's actually the fault of the NSA that the guy leaked this Exactly that, how is it possible to have access to Highly-secret

by nix23 5y ago

>DoD rules are backwards and that it's actually the fault of the NSA that the guy leaked this Exactly that, how is it possible to have access to Highly-secret stuff but also to your personal email? Something is not right here.

smorgusofborg 5y ago
This isn't really a coherent statement. The DoD's rules do prevent this; the NSA refuses to follow DoD rules.
- nix23 5y ago
  >The DoD's rules do prevent this; the NSA refuses to follow DoD rules. Well then it's like i said....there is something wrong ;)
subjectsigma 5y ago
DCSA and whatnot cannot constantly watch everyone all the time. They also cannot prevent every single possible edge case and scenario. If they tried, nobody would get anything done. You could be told classified information, go home that day, and tell your wife the same thing. There is literally nothing they can do to prevent that except make sure people know there are consequences to doing so. There are many such examples. Classified CDs is a good one. There are many rules related to classified CDs, but at some level you have to trust your people are following these rules. This is why getting a clearance is more difficult than the average job interview, and why people from the Intel communities take leaks so personally. It has to be part of the culture.
- nix23 5y ago
  >It has to be part of the culture. Funny that no one in a financial institute has access to private mail (Switzerland), USB is deactivated, to Surf the Web you need another laptop, no one has access to backups (Mainframe etc) without the knowledge of the CEO but maybe the data is more worth? But yes at the end of the day you have to trust your peoples....but private email from your working-machine....that's borderline dangerous.
  - subjectsigma 5y ago
    Nearly all classified networks are airgapped. Many are isolated to a single building or even room. I seriously doubt he had his Gmail up on his classified workstation.
    - nix23 5y ago
      >I seriously doubt he had his Gmail up on his classified workstation I hope not ;)

by nix23 5y ago

smorgusofborg 5y ago

This isn't really a coherent statement. The DoD's rules do prevent this; the NSA refuses to follow DoD rules.

nix23 5y ago
>The DoD's rules do prevent this; the NSA refuses to follow DoD rules. Well then it's like i said....there is something wrong ;)

subjectsigma 5y ago

DCSA and whatnot cannot constantly watch everyone all the time. They also cannot prevent every single possible edge case and scenario. If they tried, nobody would get anything done. You could be told classified information, go home that day, and tell your wife the same thing. There is literally nothing they can do to prevent that except make sure people know there are consequences to doing so. There are many such examples. Classified CDs is a good one. There are many rules related to classified CDs, but at some level you have to trust your people are following these rules. This is why getting a clearance is more difficult than the average job interview, and why people from the Intel communities take leaks so personally. It has to be part of the culture.

nix23 5y ago
>It has to be part of the culture. Funny that no one in a financial institute has access to private mail (Switzerland), USB is deactivated, to Surf the Web you need another laptop, no one has access to backups (Mainframe etc) without the knowledge of the CEO but maybe the data is more worth? But yes at the end of the day you have to trust your peoples....but private email from your working-machine....that's borderline dangerous.
- subjectsigma 5y ago
  Nearly all classified networks are airgapped. Many are isolated to a single building or even room. I seriously doubt he had his Gmail up on his classified workstation.
  - nix23 5y ago
    >I seriously doubt he had his Gmail up on his classified workstation I hope not ;)