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The emergent phenomenon is a pattern in my brain, just as a running a computer program is an emergent phenomenon in a computer. If the extra thing dualism adds
by simonh 5y ago
The emergent phenomenon is a pattern in my brain, just as a running a computer program is an emergent phenomenon in a computer.
If the extra thing dualism adds is just behaviours of matter, how is that different from materialism?
- mensetmanusman 5y agoWho is reading the Apple?
- simonh 5y agoI'm not sure what you mean by reading. We say that we can experience thinking about an Apple, or imagining an Apple. I see no reason why a computer, or other physically implemented AGI system, could not do that. I suspect the act of imagination is just generating, processing and transforming a computational model abstracting the thing being imagined. I believe brains are physical objects, so therefore physical objects can imagine Apples.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoThe plane of imagination isn’t physical, else you could touch it.
- gaganyaan 5y agoSure you can, its done currently for Deep Brain Stimulation. What you're proposing is "The plane of Quake isn't physical", which is nonsense. I can make the computer imagine Quake for me, then fiddle with its plane of imagination for some sweet wallhacks.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoIf you create a device that can insert objects into the plane of someone’s imagination, that would be awesome :)
- gaganyaan 5y agoThat's a side effect of DBI today. It's a random and crude method today, but arguing that we we'll hit some ineffable wall that will prevent more fine-grained control is.. well let's just say that the gaps for gods grow ever smaller.
- simonh 5y agoI don't know what a plane is in this context. You can't touch fourier transforms either, but a human brain or a microchip can compute them.
- gaganyaan 5y agoWho is it that fetched this comment from the internet for you? Using vaguely-defined words to support a deist position is a time-honored tradition, but isn't particularly interesting or convincing.