> Those servers will be like hobby email servers today. Nobody relies on these for real communication. Maybe as a toy. But everyone would have a gmail as backu

> Those servers will be like hobby email servers today. Nobody relies on these for real communication. Maybe as a toy. But everyone would have a gmail as backup. > Eg a real business. Like Gmail, Outlook If it’s a for-profit business, that does change things. But please let me know of any business you know of like this that isn’t spying on you, isn’t selling your data, and is still reliable. I can’t think of any. Actually to lower the bar, let me know of any mastodon server that is run like a legitimate business that a user could potentially sue for breaking contract. > self moderation is a lot of work Not in my experience. Simply don’t follow people that you don’t want to follow. > People want always available servers not p2p Always-available is not mutually exclusive with p2p. see: relay servers. I don’t need to rent my account from a relay server, they can just seed my data for me. Heck they don’t even need to be able to read my data to seed it for me. > “Why… When you can be left alone” is probably the attitude of someone not meant for social media. And not being able to see possibilities beyond the fediverse (a completely failed project from adoption and UX standpoints) is not an attitude meant for hacker news. Innovwtion should not stop just because some techy hacker people have made a solution. We shouldn’t be precious about these things just because we see the builders as one of our own or something.