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4 years before recreationally available in California under the legal framework

by vmception 5y ago

celdon25 5y ago
Do you need to see my medical card, officer?
- vmception 5y ago
  I don't know anything about how the medicinal framework and supply was then Its still interesting how too big of a dose and sleeping in heat has you in perpetual fear of edibles nearly 10 years later As opposed to the correct dose Like I absolutely think your experience is valid, it seems out of place to share a scary anecdote in a thread that assumes people are taking something within their tolerance range
  - celdon25 5y ago
    > it seems out of place to share a scary anecdote in a thread that assumes people are taking something within their tolerance range It's not at all out of place. You don't know what you're getting with an edible. The point being that these pseudoregulations aren't enough to keep you safe, even in a state like Kalifornia. Medical Marijuana had been implemented since 1996 there Is it out of place to suggest edibles in such a way that implies that there's no danger to them?
    - vmception 5y ago
      > Is it out of place to suggest edibles in such a way that implies that there's no danger to them? That's an interesting assumption. I would say it is out of place, for the people that do that. At the same time I don't think a disclaimer is necessary for about figuring out your dosage and that some people experience anxiety as a gatekeeping to discussing a product at all, because we don't do that for anything else. I think its something people should be aware of. That's up to the consumer, but I would absolutely love FDA style packaging with disclaimers about known side effects from actual clinical trials and studies. But we don't have that right now.
      - celdon25 5y ago
        > figuring out your dosage If you're saying what I think you're saying, you certainly missed the entire point and it's not worth discussing this in the context of a straw man.
        vmception 5y ago
        Straw man? You think I'm presenting a concept not previously presented and discrediting that concept in an effort to discredit the thing previously presented? I don't think I'm saying what you think I'm saying then. That was my actual view on edibles! There is a similarity to consuming alcohol, where one would say "know your tolerance level". There are even charts for what that tolerance level might look like! Something similar should be just as prevalent for THC "if you weigh X consider consuming Y". Sorry you had a bad experience, in 2014.
        celdon25 5y ago
        > There is a similarity to consuming alcohol, where one would say "know your tolerance level". Sure, I guess there would be a similarity if you drank from what you thought was a new can of beer and it contained Everclear instead, but having the same taste as beer and having a delayed effect. I'll spell it out for you again: it was not 30 mg, it was several hundred mg at least, labeled as 30mg. Please stop it with the straw man. And what difference does it make what year it was? You seem real keen on pointing that out as if it made any difference at all. If you want to make that kind of argument, cite some data that shows it matters, otherwise miss me with that. Did something happen between the 18th and the 26th year that medical marijuana was legal in California that I'm not aware of?
        latchkey 5y ago
        You keep maintaining that things haven't improved since 2014. Pretty sure this site didn't exist then: https://cannabis.ca.gov/ https://cannabis.ca.gov/ You can absolutely buy reputable tested products a lot more easily now. Each product on a very popular online home delivery dispensary has a license number in the description. That ties back to a company, it can be looked up on the gov website. There are registered businesses, with names attached, to sue when something goes wrong. I'm not saying that things don't go wrong or that you didn't have a bad experience, but to say that things haven't improved since 2014... well, I think you are the one who needs to provide that data.
    - mechanical_bear 5y ago
      Why did you spell California with a “K”?
      - vmception 5y ago
        because someone mis-packaged their edibles in 2014 so the K represents institutional oppression from the medicinal framework

4 years before recreationally available in California under the legal framework

celdon25 5y ago

Do you need to see my medical card, officer?

vmception 5y ago
I don't know anything about how the medicinal framework and supply was then Its still interesting how too big of a dose and sleeping in heat has you in perpetual fear of edibles nearly 10 years later As opposed to the correct dose Like I absolutely think your experience is valid, it seems out of place to share a scary anecdote in a thread that assumes people are taking something within their tolerance range
- celdon25 5y ago
  > it seems out of place to share a scary anecdote in a thread that assumes people are taking something within their tolerance range It's not at all out of place. You don't know what you're getting with an edible. The point being that these pseudoregulations aren't enough to keep you safe, even in a state like Kalifornia. Medical Marijuana had been implemented since 1996 there Is it out of place to suggest edibles in such a way that implies that there's no danger to them?
  - vmception 5y ago
    > Is it out of place to suggest edibles in such a way that implies that there's no danger to them? That's an interesting assumption. I would say it is out of place, for the people that do that. At the same time I don't think a disclaimer is necessary for about figuring out your dosage and that some people experience anxiety as a gatekeeping to discussing a product at all, because we don't do that for anything else. I think its something people should be aware of. That's up to the consumer, but I would absolutely love FDA style packaging with disclaimers about known side effects from actual clinical trials and studies. But we don't have that right now.
    - celdon25 5y ago
      > figuring out your dosage If you're saying what I think you're saying, you certainly missed the entire point and it's not worth discussing this in the context of a straw man.
      - vmception 5y ago
        Straw man? You think I'm presenting a concept not previously presented and discrediting that concept in an effort to discredit the thing previously presented? I don't think I'm saying what you think I'm saying then. That was my actual view on edibles! There is a similarity to consuming alcohol, where one would say "know your tolerance level". There are even charts for what that tolerance level might look like! Something similar should be just as prevalent for THC "if you weigh X consider consuming Y". Sorry you had a bad experience, in 2014.
        celdon25 5y ago
        > There is a similarity to consuming alcohol, where one would say "know your tolerance level". Sure, I guess there would be a similarity if you drank from what you thought was a new can of beer and it contained Everclear instead, but having the same taste as beer and having a delayed effect. I'll spell it out for you again: it was not 30 mg, it was several hundred mg at least, labeled as 30mg. Please stop it with the straw man. And what difference does it make what year it was? You seem real keen on pointing that out as if it made any difference at all. If you want to make that kind of argument, cite some data that shows it matters, otherwise miss me with that. Did something happen between the 18th and the 26th year that medical marijuana was legal in California that I'm not aware of?
        latchkey 5y ago
        You keep maintaining that things haven't improved since 2014. Pretty sure this site didn't exist then: https://cannabis.ca.gov/ https://cannabis.ca.gov/ You can absolutely buy reputable tested products a lot more easily now. Each product on a very popular online home delivery dispensary has a license number in the description. That ties back to a company, it can be looked up on the gov website. There are registered businesses, with names attached, to sue when something goes wrong. I'm not saying that things don't go wrong or that you didn't have a bad experience, but to say that things haven't improved since 2014... well, I think you are the one who needs to provide that data.
  - mechanical_bear 5y ago
    Why did you spell California with a “K”?
    - vmception 5y ago
      because someone mis-packaged their edibles in 2014 so the K represents institutional oppression from the medicinal framework