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> they want to create a virus that targets only certain ethnic group Ok that is totally made up. There are plenty of reasons that researchers make dangerous p

by rcpt 5y ago

> they want to create a virus that targets only certain ethnic group Ok that is totally made up. There are plenty of reasons that researchers make dangerous pathogens that have nothing to do with ethnic cleansing. Some of these methods even get published despite the risks that the knowledge presents https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2012.10875 https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2012.10875

mattcwilson 5y ago
Can you explain what you mean by “totally made up?” Are you saying literally no one at all wants this? Just that there are also other reasons to do the research? Something else?
- nicoburns 5y ago
  I think that the covid pandemic is highly unlikely to be the result of such research. It's much more likely to be the result of research into how to prevent future pandemics and treat coronaviruses.
  - mattcwilson 5y ago
    Ok, I think that’s reasonable. At the level of individual research directors, I agree that probably the large majority of them have good intentions. My concern is that there aren’t just altruistic research directors. There are funders. There are politicians. There are militaries. There are covert agents. And I get really concerned how easy it is for actors with less savory, noble intentions to coopt naive researchers into participating in a larger agenda. It’s super convenient for everyone to be able to have the plucky, innocent, earnest research director come out with shining optimism about the potential. And it’s a convenient reason not to totally slam the brakes on research that, for better or worse, may lead (may have led) to global pandemic.
blurbleblurble 5y ago
Not sure what the GP's point was but I'll just point out that there is literally a conspiracy theory being circulated right now that says just that. It's being used in Russia to justify the war in Ukraine.
TeeMassive 5y ago
> Ok that is totally made up. https://guardian.ng/features/health/bioweapons-designed-to-kill-only-people-of-particular-race/ https://guardian.ng/features/health/bioweapons-designed-to-k... "A new report from Cambridge University’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk says that world governments have failed when it comes to preparing against threats like futuristic bioweapons powered by Artificial Intelligence (AI) and genetic manipulation. Such weapons would have to power to target specific DNA, and kill certain races of people leaving other swaths of the population unharmed." Additional information from a biochemist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjfvHOcfEUQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjfvHOcfEUQ > There are plenty of reasons that researchers make dangerous pathogens that have nothing to do with ethnic cleansing. Such as? The article you posted merely states that it is possible and that they "wish" it will lead to more vaccine research, without saying how.
TrispusAttucks 5y ago
This was a thing a few years ago. There were alleged leaks from a whistle-blower from the CCP regarding developing bio-weapons that targeted specific gene sequences attributed to certain ethnicities.

by rcpt 5y ago

mattcwilson 5y ago

Can you explain what you mean by “totally made up?” Are you saying literally no one at all wants this? Just that there are also other reasons to do the research? Something else?

nicoburns 5y ago
I think that the covid pandemic is highly unlikely to be the result of such research. It's much more likely to be the result of research into how to prevent future pandemics and treat coronaviruses.
- mattcwilson 5y ago
  Ok, I think that’s reasonable. At the level of individual research directors, I agree that probably the large majority of them have good intentions. My concern is that there aren’t just altruistic research directors. There are funders. There are politicians. There are militaries. There are covert agents. And I get really concerned how easy it is for actors with less savory, noble intentions to coopt naive researchers into participating in a larger agenda. It’s super convenient for everyone to be able to have the plucky, innocent, earnest research director come out with shining optimism about the potential. And it’s a convenient reason not to totally slam the brakes on research that, for better or worse, may lead (may have led) to global pandemic.

blurbleblurble 5y ago

Not sure what the GP's point was but I'll just point out that there is literally a conspiracy theory being circulated right now that says just that. It's being used in Russia to justify the war in Ukraine.

TeeMassive 5y ago

> Ok that is totally made up. https://guardian.ng/features/health/bioweapons-designed-to-kill-only-people-of-particular-race/ https://guardian.ng/features/health/bioweapons-designed-to-k... "A new report from Cambridge University’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk says that world governments have failed when it comes to preparing against threats like futuristic bioweapons powered by Artificial Intelligence (AI) and genetic manipulation. Such weapons would have to power to target specific DNA, and kill certain races of people leaving other swaths of the population unharmed." Additional information from a biochemist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjfvHOcfEUQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjfvHOcfEUQ > There are plenty of reasons that researchers make dangerous pathogens that have nothing to do with ethnic cleansing. Such as? The article you posted merely states that it is possible and that they "wish" it will lead to more vaccine research, without saying how.

TrispusAttucks 5y ago

This was a thing a few years ago. There were alleged leaks from a whistle-blower from the CCP regarding developing bio-weapons that targeted specific gene sequences attributed to certain ethnicities.