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Edibles. I really wish cannabis was associated with consuming jello or chocolate, instead of smoking something. People, even dating apps, even doctors, ask "d
by vmception 5y ago
Edibles.
I really wish cannabis was associated with consuming jello or chocolate, instead of smoking something.
People, even dating apps, even doctors, ask "do you smoke weed", when they mean to ask "do you consume thc and cool with that" (okay doctors may be asking about lung cancer risk from smoking and other ways to fuck up your insurance premiums)
I don't smoke anything
Gummies though? Keep the supplies filled
so, its the wrong question and wrong association
- whoopdeepoo 5y agoDry herb vaping is another option
- azemetre 5y agoWouldn't ingesting anything into your lungs be bad? How does vaping make it better?
- amanaplanacanal 5y agoTheoretically you aren’t getting the particulates from smoke. I assume it’s less harmful, but has it been studied?
- epgui 5y agoCaution: that's not exactly true. What you get is a different distribution of particulates. You'll get much less of the larger particulates, and you'll be inhaling mostly finer particulates. They cause a different pattern of tissue damage.
- whimsicalism 5y agoSource on this claim?
- epgui 5y ago- https://respiratory-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12931-021-01737-5 https://respiratory-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1... - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/08958378.2012.744781?journalCode=iiht20 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/08958378.2012.74... - https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0210147 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... - https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2021.750402/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2021.7504... - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0021850219305919 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00218... - https://www.epj-conferences.org/articles/epjconf/pdf/2017/12/epjconf_efm2017_02006.pdf https://www.epj-conferences.org/articles/epjconf/pdf/2017/12... - https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l5275 https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l5275 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3925716/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3925716/ - ...and plenty more
- whimsicalism 5y agoAppreciate it. These articles are mostly about liquid vaping, not dry herb vaping, yeah?
- epgui 5y agoThat's right. I would expect that dry herb vaping would be more or less equivalent to liquid vaping (but of course this would depend on temperature, contents of the liquid, etc), assuming that no combustion occurs. Edit: I should say that this is not my specific area of expertise. This is a fairly active area of research, and while I am somewhat interested I am not following it super closely.
- SauciestGNU 5y agoMy doctor (not a doctor who proscribes cannabis per a consensus of the physicians in the practice) stressed rather urgently that any cannabis vaping should be dry herb and not liquid. Sample size of one and all.
- whimsicalism 5y agoTar, carcinogens - all much less present in dry herb vaping. There aren't longitudinal studies on this really though, and no amount of inhaling not air into your lungs is safe.
- Jeff_Brown 5y agoCooling the smoke might be part of the purpose of the water in a bong. Similarly for the long tubes on houkas.
- vmception 5y agoopportunistic reminder that hookahs are "100 times worse than cigarettes" for your lungs and the rest of your body! the consumer protection on hookahs is absolutely broken, as the warnings practically don't exist and a lot of people that avoid nicotine cigarettes use hookahs think theyre unrelated and benign, health wise.
- epgui 5y agoYes, pretty much anything that goes into your lungs is bad. Lungs are incredibly fragile. This is especially so if whatever you're inhaling is hot (eg.: water vapour, smoke from any source...).
- whimsicalism 5y agoSource on the heat/water vapour claim?
- epgui 5y agoOof, a pathology class from 10 years ago, and this is more based on first principles than research findings. I'll see if I can't dig up something.
- celdon25 5y agoIn 2014 I ended up in the hospital due to an abnormally high concentration of material in an edible. Slept through 90 degree heat and had potassium depletion. Woke up and immediately couldn't control my muscles and had arrhythmia. Thought I was dying. Never touched an edible again.
- dj_mc_merlin 5y agoSurely the problem was not the edibles if sleeping in 90 degree weather paralyzed you? I've sweated large amounts in my sleep, especially while sick, never have I considered I could sweat out enough potassium to paralyze me. Were you eating fine?
- celdon25 5y agoConsidering that when I got out of the hospital late the next day, I was still extremely stoned, I'm going to have to disagree.
- whimsicalism 5y agoWhat? That does not show anything
- latchkey 5y agoAt least in California, the stuff (especially gummies) you get from the dispensaries is in well controlled doses. Once you find your tolerance levels for a specific brand (through experimentation with smaller amounts) it is easy to just eat half of one, know you're getting X mg of THC and use that as a baseline. Then you just keep buying the same thing and even with different brands, you still have that X mg baseline to go from.
- celdon25 5y agoIt was in California.
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- 01100011 5y agoEating edibles allows your liver to get a pass at the THC before your brain, and it converts it to 11-hydroxy-THC which is more psychoactive. It is also much, much easier to overdose with edibles and that is a very unfun experience. I am an extremely experienced smoker/eater/grower/etc and when I screwed up some edible calculations and overdosed I almost called 911. It is only my absolute faith that THC has never killed anyone(directly) that kept me from freaking out.
- blueprint 5y agohow much did you take?
- 01100011 5y agoBeats me. Enough to turn my backyard into a cartoon and shortly afterwards I was paralyzed in bed with a pounding heartbeat. I knew enough to keep my feet elevated to counteract some of the low blood pressure effects. In addition to what I said earlier, you also have to consider interactions. A friend gave one of the edibles I made to a friend who was taking some random Chinese herbal medicine and they did end up calling the paramedics.
- robbedpeter 5y agoKeep in mind no known interactions are dangerous because of the thc chemistry. It's the secondary consequences that can get you in trouble. It can be psychologically dangerous, triggering psychosis, panic attacks, existential crises, munchies, etc. Depending on your fitness, health needs (diabetes, cardiopulmonary disease), or susceptibility to schizophrenia, thc can result in life altering or ending events. Plan ahead with appropriate sober sitters, snacks, hydration, and safe spaces if you need to retreat. Know what to do if your friend goes hamster-eyed on you. A majority of the time, for a huge majority of users, thc will be OK, but the trick to achieving that is education and basic harm reduction. If it gets legalized federally, I hope at least 20% of the taxes go toward education and harm reduction, for marijuana and other drugs. Drugs can be awesome and empowering and fun. Ignorance kills people and ruins lives.
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- quickthrowman 5y agoThe duration of edibles can be trying, even for experienced smokers. I can’t eat edibles after 5 PM on a weekday or I’m still high when I wake up.
- vmception 5y agoI think the main point is that the experience is so different that its practically a different drug. People just need to be objective about that. Smoking barely does anything to your tolerance to prepare one for it. While using edibles increases tolerance on edibles.
- mountainriver 5y agoYup, we need to socialize disentangling these things. Most cannabis users I know use edibles and seem in great health. Also cut your edibles with CBD. A 1:1 mix is good to prevent the “overdose” scenario