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Quite a few experts said originally that the furin cleavage site (FCS) is the "smoking gun" evidence that the virus is lab modified. But then other experts sai

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Quite a few experts said originally that the furin cleavage site (FCS) is the "smoking gun" evidence that the virus is lab modified. But then other experts said that it's just a coincidence that could arise naturally. Now we learn that EcoHealth had these plans to insert FCS's in viruses, yet they stayed quiet during the whole FCS debate and didn't mentioned it until it was found out from FOIA'd emails. And not only that they didn't mention it, they kept saying it's just a coincidence and to say otherwise is a conspiracy theory.

fsckboy 5y ago
part of the claim of the furan cleavage "smoking gun" is that the sequence matches a sequence that was patented by Moderna 3 years before the Covid-19 outbreak (Hoping somebody here can shed further light. I don't want to spread misinformation, and I'm not able to corroborate this myself, so be skeptical; however we have seen a lot information manipulation or suppression in every direction the past few years, so be skeptical in the other direction too) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10542309/Fresh-lab-leak-fears-study-finds-genetic-code-Covids-spike-protein-linked-Moderna-patent.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10542309/Fresh-lab-... https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/moderna-patented-cancer-gene-is-in?s=r https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/moderna-patented-cancer-ge...
- dmix 5y ago
  Discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29938732 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29938732
  - fsckboy 5y ago
    most people in that discussion want to debunk the salience of the Moderna patent sequence on the grounds that there are other examples of the same sequence in earth's biome, so it could have entered the covid-19 virus some other way. While that is worth knowing/noting, to me it doesn't debunk because Moderna still took a recent interest in it, enough to patent it and it was of interest for the same reason that it would be suggested to test it on a coronavirus.
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fsckboy 5y ago

part of the claim of the furan cleavage "smoking gun" is that the sequence matches a sequence that was patented by Moderna 3 years before the Covid-19 outbreak (Hoping somebody here can shed further light. I don't want to spread misinformation, and I'm not able to corroborate this myself, so be skeptical; however we have seen a lot information manipulation or suppression in every direction the past few years, so be skeptical in the other direction too) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10542309/Fresh-lab-leak-fears-study-finds-genetic-code-Covids-spike-protein-linked-Moderna-patent.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10542309/Fresh-lab-... https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/moderna-patented-cancer-gene-is-in?s=r https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/moderna-patented-cancer-ge...

dmix 5y ago
Discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29938732 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29938732
- fsckboy 5y ago
  most people in that discussion want to debunk the salience of the Moderna patent sequence on the grounds that there are other examples of the same sequence in earth's biome, so it could have entered the covid-19 virus some other way. While that is worth knowing/noting, to me it doesn't debunk because Moderna still took a recent interest in it, enough to patent it and it was of interest for the same reason that it would be suggested to test it on a coronavirus.
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