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Nope. Way too cynical of a take. > If you’re not making your delivery timelines and this is a surprise to your organization, you and your manager have a proble

by lghh 5y ago

Nope. Way too cynical of a take. > If you’re not making your delivery timelines and this is a surprise to your organization, you and your manager have a problem If you're not communicating the state of the thing you're working on with the people who need to know then you have a problem. > If product has a dream and no one knows what it would take to build it (time, resources, architecture), you have a problem Your job is to effectively communicate what is and is not possible, and at what cost. > you are basically unfireable because you know so much Sometimes things are complex and you know why they are complex and how they got that way and how to avoid those mistakes in the future.

henning 5y ago
> If you're not communicating the state of the thing you're working on with the people who need to know then you have a problem. You're acting like it matters that you're communicating that there has been a setback or delay. Your estimate is a deadline and failing to make the deadline will be a disappointment. > Your job is to effectively communicate what is and is not possible, and at what cost. No one cares about any of this. All the people who actually run the company care about is fulfilling what they are now contractually obligated to do -- an obligation they made without consulting you, so everyone can move on to the next round of customer commits. > Sometimes things are complex and you know why they are complex and how they got that way and how to avoid those mistakes in the future. That sounds like everyone working on any large project. That doesn't make anyone unfireable.
- Tcepsa 5y ago
  I fully believe that there are companies out there for which this is true. I also know that there is at least one organization out there for which it is not true, at least in several parts of the organization, because I've spent the last fifteen years working there. (It's a big org; there are probably parts that do have this kind of toxicity but I've been fortunate enough to avoid them). My work slides to the right all the time, but because I keep my managers appraised of the risk, give them as much warning as possible when something unanticipated interferes with progress, and work with them to consider alternatives and figure out how to respond, I have gotten consistently positive reviews and a wide selection of projects for me to choose from whenever I have availability. Maybe I just got super lucky--it's a good fit for me and it's a huge part of why I've stayed so long--but to say that all companies and upper management are as you've described? That's painting with too broad a brush.

by lghh 5y ago

henning 5y ago

> If you're not communicating the state of the thing you're working on with the people who need to know then you have a problem. You're acting like it matters that you're communicating that there has been a setback or delay. Your estimate is a deadline and failing to make the deadline will be a disappointment. > Your job is to effectively communicate what is and is not possible, and at what cost. No one cares about any of this. All the people who actually run the company care about is fulfilling what they are now contractually obligated to do -- an obligation they made without consulting you, so everyone can move on to the next round of customer commits. > Sometimes things are complex and you know why they are complex and how they got that way and how to avoid those mistakes in the future. That sounds like everyone working on any large project. That doesn't make anyone unfireable.

Tcepsa 5y ago
I fully believe that there are companies out there for which this is true. I also know that there is at least one organization out there for which it is not true, at least in several parts of the organization, because I've spent the last fifteen years working there. (It's a big org; there are probably parts that do have this kind of toxicity but I've been fortunate enough to avoid them). My work slides to the right all the time, but because I keep my managers appraised of the risk, give them as much warning as possible when something unanticipated interferes with progress, and work with them to consider alternatives and figure out how to respond, I have gotten consistently positive reviews and a wide selection of projects for me to choose from whenever I have availability. Maybe I just got super lucky--it's a good fit for me and it's a huge part of why I've stayed so long--but to say that all companies and upper management are as you've described? That's painting with too broad a brush.