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I live in the United States, and it's kind of shocking to see such privileged responses to what is ultimately a useful starting stack. Imagine a young engineer

I live in the United States, and it's kind of shocking to see such privileged responses to what is ultimately a useful starting stack. Imagine a young engineer in Bogota, or Ukraine if you want to get topical. They may barely have the hardware to accomplish anything compute wise... and your answer is "Use AWS!" Access to the cloud is privilege to the highest degree. You used to need academic credentials to use someone else's computer. I get the idea of not wasting time, but as somebody who has used self-hosting as nothing but a waste of time that teaches me something, I can't believe so few see the value in a self-hosted starter pack. Great architecture, OP. I challenge you to simplify the process even more... A lot of manual steps here that should be abstracted with intuitive global configuration, IMO.

Closi 5y ago
OP also lives in the United States, so I’m not entirely sure where this idea that it was targeted at startups in the developing world comes from - its certainly not listed on the page. Also Ukraine is very advanced in terms of dev and IT, and developers and entrepreneurs still need to maximise their productivity, so I’m not sure your idea that the technology stacks of Ukrainian startups should look different because their time is less valuable is valid.
- hatware 5y ago
  I never implied that it was targeting the developing world, and I'm not sure why the author needs to "list it on the page" in order for it to be helpful to the developing world. Not everyone has constant access to a computer they own, a reliable internet connection, or the luxury of a "cloud" to use for research and development. Good for Ukraine, I guarantee this is useful to at least a handful of folks in that country. Those who do not have access to the luxuries those of us in the developed world take for granted.
frizzy 5y ago
I should say, that I'm from Belarus - yes, the country near Russia and Ukraine whos territory russia used to attack Ukraine. Small remark: we - belarusians - fight against Putin and Lukashenko at leaset since 2020 and asked world to help us, but we lost and today we have that we have. Personally I emigrated with my girl... So, in Ukrain, Belarus and Russia we have a good technical level and access to all clouds like aws. Hovewer, Russia and Belarus doesn't have currently and I rather support it. So my pack could help teams from Russia, even when I don't support the action of Russia and hates them. But this is a good example why sometimes you want to selfhost some services xD TLDR: I personally think that free paas is better than selfhosted in multiple ways, but sometime its great to have some alternaty and I hope that my pack give it for someone :)

Closi 5y ago

OP also lives in the United States, so I’m not entirely sure where this idea that it was targeted at startups in the developing world comes from - its certainly not listed on the page. Also Ukraine is very advanced in terms of dev and IT, and developers and entrepreneurs still need to maximise their productivity, so I’m not sure your idea that the technology stacks of Ukrainian startups should look different because their time is less valuable is valid.

hatware 5y ago
I never implied that it was targeting the developing world, and I'm not sure why the author needs to "list it on the page" in order for it to be helpful to the developing world. Not everyone has constant access to a computer they own, a reliable internet connection, or the luxury of a "cloud" to use for research and development. Good for Ukraine, I guarantee this is useful to at least a handful of folks in that country. Those who do not have access to the luxuries those of us in the developed world take for granted.

frizzy 5y ago

I should say, that I'm from Belarus - yes, the country near Russia and Ukraine whos territory russia used to attack Ukraine. Small remark: we - belarusians - fight against Putin and Lukashenko at leaset since 2020 and asked world to help us, but we lost and today we have that we have. Personally I emigrated with my girl... So, in Ukrain, Belarus and Russia we have a good technical level and access to all clouds like aws. Hovewer, Russia and Belarus doesn't have currently and I rather support it. So my pack could help teams from Russia, even when I don't support the action of Russia and hates them. But this is a good example why sometimes you want to selfhost some services xD TLDR: I personally think that free paas is better than selfhosted in multiple ways, but sometime its great to have some alternaty and I hope that my pack give it for someone :)