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Congratulations on launching this oft requested feature! Any timelines for support for Functions over QUIC/HTTP3 and raw UDP/TCP? Cloudflare Workers, the clos

Congratulations on launching this oft requested feature! Any timelines for support for Functions over QUIC/HTTP3 and raw UDP/TCP? Cloudflare Workers, the closest thing to Deno Deploy, announced intention to support raw TCP a few months back (while "HTTP3" has been supported for quite a long time now). Re: Database Functions: I really like the dual nature of Cloudflare's database offerings: Durable Objects (run functions close to data) as an option for apps that need that kind of strong consistency guarantees. KV (move read-only data close to functions) as an option for apps that can tolerate race but desire speed.

kiwicopple 5y ago
> Any timelines for support for Functions over QUIC/HTTP3 and raw UDP/TCP? I'll ask the Deno team. I'm curious what your use-case is for these (especially UDP)? > Cloudflare's database offerings DO and KV are both incredible products. I think we'll tackle these a little differently since our "base" is Postgres. We are announcing more "edge-like" products tomorrow which will lay the groundwork
- ignoramous 5y ago
  > I'm curious what your use-case is for these (especially UDP)? Custom network devices like TURN/STUN, L4/L7 load balancers (relays, gateways), authoritative / recursive DNS, Wireguard tunnels, WebRTC etc. > We are announcing more "edge-like" products tomorrow which will lay the groundwork. Exciting. Thanks! (:
SpaghettiX 5y ago
Have you used Workers KV? In my experience, it's not just eventually consistent but also delayed - often by 10 seconds at least - the data is not updated even for the same client, unless they implement their own caching. https://community.cloudflare.com/t/how-truly-slow-is-workers-kv/218196 https://community.cloudflare.com/t/how-truly-slow-is-workers... The other solution is to use cloudflare durable objects. - which is what I use, but it's very verbose. KV is a poor experience for me.
- ignoramous 5y ago
  Yeah we do use KV but with explicit caching [0] and a hand-rolled reconciliation/cache-invalidation logic on top. [1] [0] https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/runtime-apis/cache/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/runtime-apis/cache... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25295359 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25295359

kiwicopple 5y ago

> Any timelines for support for Functions over QUIC/HTTP3 and raw UDP/TCP? I'll ask the Deno team. I'm curious what your use-case is for these (especially UDP)? > Cloudflare's database offerings DO and KV are both incredible products. I think we'll tackle these a little differently since our "base" is Postgres. We are announcing more "edge-like" products tomorrow which will lay the groundwork

ignoramous 5y ago
> I'm curious what your use-case is for these (especially UDP)? Custom network devices like TURN/STUN, L4/L7 load balancers (relays, gateways), authoritative / recursive DNS, Wireguard tunnels, WebRTC etc. > We are announcing more "edge-like" products tomorrow which will lay the groundwork. Exciting. Thanks! (:

SpaghettiX 5y ago

Have you used Workers KV? In my experience, it's not just eventually consistent but also delayed - often by 10 seconds at least - the data is not updated even for the same client, unless they implement their own caching. https://community.cloudflare.com/t/how-truly-slow-is-workers-kv/218196 https://community.cloudflare.com/t/how-truly-slow-is-workers... The other solution is to use cloudflare durable objects. - which is what I use, but it's very verbose. KV is a poor experience for me.

ignoramous 5y ago
Yeah we do use KV but with explicit caching [0] and a hand-rolled reconciliation/cache-invalidation logic on top. [1] [0] https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/runtime-apis/cache/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/runtime-apis/cache... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25295359 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25295359