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> Land is about the easiest thing for a government to seize (and protect, for that matter). ...and just killing people even easier. What's your point? The pur

> Land is about the easiest thing for a government to seize (and protect, for that matter). ...and just killing people even easier. What's your point? The purpose of "If you don't plan on leaving your country" is to describe situations where the threat is exogenous to governance. E.g., starvation-level crop failures/grid failure/energy shock/etc. Or even just a massive depression during which I can't find employment. In those cases, I'm less concerned about governmental overreach than figuring out where the next year of food and energy come from. The moment I'm thinking about the government taking my land unexpectedly, I'm FAR outside of "If you don't plan on leaving your country" territory. That risk is hedged in other ways. But, most importantly, I can enjoy land independent of its hedging value. I try not to invest significant chunks of time into acquiring pure hedges. How am I supposed to use stablecoin to ride a horse to a hilltop or sit around a fire with friends... > I don't see why you're ruling out crypto as not satisfying the desiderata here This is like asking why I would rule out a humanoid robot for vacuuming my floors. Because I already have an existing solution that is easier, safer, and simpler. Social connections and hard skills are an indisputably better asset to have in "fuck this I'm leaving the country" situations. And, again, having friends & family all over the place is its own reward. As is cultivating useful skills. Not sure how I'm supposed to enjoy a vacation or find meaning in life with a stablecoin. ...also, all of this is independent of the fact that crypto really isn't even a good hedge for these sorts of long-tail risks in the context of the USA.

SilasX 5y ago
>...and just killing people even easier. What's your point? That a hedge needs to be robust against the threat you're using it to hedge. Land ownership becomes the most precarious during exactly the times you're using it as a hedge for, which is a bad idea. Times of crisis are exactly when land seizure is the most likely and ease of protecting and securing it is the highest. >But, most importantly, I can enjoy land independent of its hedging value. Not in a crisis, when (in addition to the above) governments have the least resources available for protecting your land from randos. I'm imagining you with a grain silo during a famine, thinking "no biggie, of course the government will protect me against theft of this super valuable food". >This is like asking why I would rule out a humanoid robot for vacuuming my floors. Because I already have an existing solution that is easier, safer, and simpler. I'm sorry, do people generally have a hard time understanding the concept of "a better alternative exists" that you need an analogy to explain it? I don't know what the purpose of that analogy was other than to intimidate others from asking honest questions about your argument. >Social connections and hard skills are an indisputably better asset to have in "fuck this I'm leaving the country" situations. And, again, having friends & family all over the place is its own reward. As is cultivating useful skills. Right, I got that part. Do you remember the rest of your post, where you said: >But that's a very difficult set of things to cultivate for most people. So what is it? You said it's difficult. Why is it hard to understand, then, why I would suggest crypto satisfies the desiderata here? I guess it must have something to do with me thinking that you should use a humanoid robot to vacuum your floors. So yes, you may have already accomplished the difficult thing. But before you moved the goalposts, you seemed to be concerned with the average person. And now that you've moved the goalposts, you can't help but brag about what a jet setter you are. >...also, all of this is independent of the fact that crypto really isn't even a good hedge for these sorts of long-tail risks in the context of the USA. I agree you should have started with this, as a better argument than "holding physical banknotes in another country is easier than holding stablecoins".
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  As I said, you enjoy your crypto and I'll enjoy my fire pit on a hill.
  - SilasX 5y ago
    It didn't add anything to the conversation the first time you said it either.

SilasX 5y ago

>...and just killing people even easier. What's your point? That a hedge needs to be robust against the threat you're using it to hedge. Land ownership becomes the most precarious during exactly the times you're using it as a hedge for, which is a bad idea. Times of crisis are exactly when land seizure is the most likely and ease of protecting and securing it is the highest. >But, most importantly, I can enjoy land independent of its hedging value. Not in a crisis, when (in addition to the above) governments have the least resources available for protecting your land from randos. I'm imagining you with a grain silo during a famine, thinking "no biggie, of course the government will protect me against theft of this super valuable food". >This is like asking why I would rule out a humanoid robot for vacuuming my floors. Because I already have an existing solution that is easier, safer, and simpler. I'm sorry, do people generally have a hard time understanding the concept of "a better alternative exists" that you need an analogy to explain it? I don't know what the purpose of that analogy was other than to intimidate others from asking honest questions about your argument. >Social connections and hard skills are an indisputably better asset to have in "fuck this I'm leaving the country" situations. And, again, having friends & family all over the place is its own reward. As is cultivating useful skills. Right, I got that part. Do you remember the rest of your post, where you said: >But that's a very difficult set of things to cultivate for most people. So what is it? You said it's difficult. Why is it hard to understand, then, why I would suggest crypto satisfies the desiderata here? I guess it must have something to do with me thinking that you should use a humanoid robot to vacuum your floors. So yes, you may have already accomplished the difficult thing. But before you moved the goalposts, you seemed to be concerned with the average person. And now that you've moved the goalposts, you can't help but brag about what a jet setter you are. >...also, all of this is independent of the fact that crypto really isn't even a good hedge for these sorts of long-tail risks in the context of the USA. I agree you should have started with this, as a better argument than "holding physical banknotes in another country is easier than holding stablecoins".

throwawaygh 5y ago
As I said, you enjoy your crypto and I'll enjoy my fire pit on a hill.
- SilasX 5y ago
  It didn't add anything to the conversation the first time you said it either.