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Is that it? Is that the full, comprehensive list? If I do these things, am I completely good? I doubt it, and again it's excessively vague: * "Limit"? * "S

Is that it? Is that the full, comprehensive list? If I do these things, am I completely good? I doubt it, and again it's excessively vague: * "Limit"? * "Sugary drinks?" * "One or two servings" that's literally doubling the serving count. How can that be, where consuming twice as many of something is as fine as consuming half? * Juices should be limited but my fruit and veg intake per meal should be 50%, that is contradictory information, unless you're trying to suggest blending things reduces its nutritional value. * If that is the case, how blended? Should I not chop my carrots? Minced onion is worse for me than diced onion, should I just eat the onion whole? * Is it better to starve than to violate these rules? * What, specifically, are the consequences of violating these rules? If I, today, eat one additional serving of fruit than I "ought", am I cutting my lifespan by three days? Six weeks? Even if you can answer every question I put up here, would you mind publishing your phone number so everyone in HN can give you a call every time something isn't covered here? By the way, what are your credentials? Why should I trust your assertion that this is a solved problem, or that your interpretations of this document are accurate? Why should I trust this website in the first place? Yes, it's Harvard, but I don't trust them blindly; how did they arrive at these conclusions? Please, don't condescendingly link to a nutritional chart page and think it answers every question, or suggest this information isn't regularly changing.

fsflover 5y ago
> Even if you can answer every question I put up here, would you mind publishing your phone number so everyone in HN can give you a call every time something isn't covered here? By the way, what are your credentials? Why should I trust your assertion that this is a solved problem Good questions. I have no credibility and I don't pretend to have it. Ask you nutritionist. I just read the official nutrition advises carefully. And you should too. Also, check the referenced research if you can. > or suggest this information isn't regularly changing. It doesn't for quite some time already. Also all changes have been explained. See for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12480733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12480733. > * "Limit"? You probably don't have to avoid it like a poison. The less, the better, I guess. > * "Sugary drinks?" Every drink which contains a lot of sugar. For example, Cola and juice both have about 10 grams/100 ml of sugar. This is 2 table spoons per 200 ml. Compare to the recommended daily sugar intake. > * "One or two servings" that's literally doubling the serving count. How can that be, where consuming twice as many of something is as fine as consuming half? It must depend on how much calories you generally need per day. People are very different. If you need a personal advice, ask a nutritionist. > * Juices should be limited but my fruit and veg intake per meal should be 50%, that is contradictory information, unless you're trying to suggest blending things reduces its nutritional value. I don't see any contradiction here. Fruits contain not just sugar but also fiber which is necessary for a good health. See also: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/5-a-day/why-5-a-day/ https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/5-a-day/why-5-a-day/. > unless you're trying to suggest blending things reduces its nutritional value. This is not how I understand it. See also recipes from the HSPH. > * Is it better to starve than to violate these rules? In general, they recommend a diet with a great variety, so it's a "no". > What, specifically, are the consequences of violating these rules? There is a lot of info on that website. If you read that, you will see, e.g., that processed red meat increases the risk of a cancer.
- TameAntelope 5y ago
  > I have no credibility and I don't pretend to have. And yet you're giving nutritional advice on Hacker News to complete strangers. Maybe remember your lack of credibility next time you claim a topic is a solved problem.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    I'm not giving a nutritional advice. I'm repeating the advice from the official resource and encourage to check it yourself and/or ask your nutritionist. I'm just tired of lazy people who don't want to read the official advises and prefer to say that everything is unclear in the nutrition science.
    - TameAntelope 5y ago
      Wrong. You are giving nutritional advice by claiming this is "the official resource" (it's not), and by synthesizing the information into new, different information that is both less correct and even more vague. You may be tired of people not being informed, but I'm tired of ignorant people thinking they know more about a topic than they actually do.
      - fsflover 5y ago
        > by claiming this is "the official resource" (it's not) Care to elaborate? Harvard Public School of Health is a professional nutritional organization, isn't it? > both less correct and even more vague. This is a shallow dismissal, which is against the HN rules. I'm always happy to be corrected and understand nutrition better.
        TameAntelope 5y ago
        Professional doesn't mean official, and it's not a shallow dismissal, it's just a dismissal due to your self professed lack of credentials on the topic.

fsflover 5y ago

> Even if you can answer every question I put up here, would you mind publishing your phone number so everyone in HN can give you a call every time something isn't covered here? By the way, what are your credentials? Why should I trust your assertion that this is a solved problem Good questions. I have no credibility and I don't pretend to have it. Ask you nutritionist. I just read the official nutrition advises carefully. And you should too. Also, check the referenced research if you can. > or suggest this information isn't regularly changing. It doesn't for quite some time already. Also all changes have been explained. See for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12480733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12480733. > * "Limit"? You probably don't have to avoid it like a poison. The less, the better, I guess. > * "Sugary drinks?" Every drink which contains a lot of sugar. For example, Cola and juice both have about 10 grams/100 ml of sugar. This is 2 table spoons per 200 ml. Compare to the recommended daily sugar intake. > * "One or two servings" that's literally doubling the serving count. How can that be, where consuming twice as many of something is as fine as consuming half? It must depend on how much calories you generally need per day. People are very different. If you need a personal advice, ask a nutritionist. > * Juices should be limited but my fruit and veg intake per meal should be 50%, that is contradictory information, unless you're trying to suggest blending things reduces its nutritional value. I don't see any contradiction here. Fruits contain not just sugar but also fiber which is necessary for a good health. See also: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/5-a-day/why-5-a-day/ https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/5-a-day/why-5-a-day/. > unless you're trying to suggest blending things reduces its nutritional value. This is not how I understand it. See also recipes from the HSPH. > * Is it better to starve than to violate these rules? In general, they recommend a diet with a great variety, so it's a "no". > What, specifically, are the consequences of violating these rules? There is a lot of info on that website. If you read that, you will see, e.g., that processed red meat increases the risk of a cancer.

TameAntelope 5y ago
> I have no credibility and I don't pretend to have. And yet you're giving nutritional advice on Hacker News to complete strangers. Maybe remember your lack of credibility next time you claim a topic is a solved problem.
- fsflover 5y ago
  I'm not giving a nutritional advice. I'm repeating the advice from the official resource and encourage to check it yourself and/or ask your nutritionist. I'm just tired of lazy people who don't want to read the official advises and prefer to say that everything is unclear in the nutrition science.
  - TameAntelope 5y ago
    Wrong. You are giving nutritional advice by claiming this is "the official resource" (it's not), and by synthesizing the information into new, different information that is both less correct and even more vague. You may be tired of people not being informed, but I'm tired of ignorant people thinking they know more about a topic than they actually do.
    - fsflover 5y ago
      > by claiming this is "the official resource" (it's not) Care to elaborate? Harvard Public School of Health is a professional nutritional organization, isn't it? > both less correct and even more vague. This is a shallow dismissal, which is against the HN rules. I'm always happy to be corrected and understand nutrition better.
      - TameAntelope 5y ago
        Professional doesn't mean official, and it's not a shallow dismissal, it's just a dismissal due to your self professed lack of credentials on the topic.