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We were not discussing whether the protest was peaceful or not; we are discussing whether or not self-evident leaders of the movement wanted a coup. You can pe

We were not discussing whether the protest was peaceful or not; we are discussing whether or not self-evident leaders of the movement wanted a coup. You can personnally cry and cry that they were not leaders of the movement, but never has Tamara Lich publically denounced James Bauder, or denied her desire to overthrow the government. She never went on record denouncing his involvement in any leadership position. Letting someone in a protest you supposedely organize run around and demand the overthrow of the government is a thing that happens all the time; it's common. Whenever that person has the limelight on them, you vigorously denounce them and deny any sort of leadership on their part. Failure to do so means you agree. Ultimately, this whole convoy was dangerously inept. That's a thing. You can be so clueless, so reckless that you're a danger to others.

incomingpain 5y ago
>We were not discussing whether the protest was peaceful or not; Excellent, you cede that they were peaceful and therefore their charter rights were violated. >we are discussing whether or not self-evident leaders of the movement wanted a coup. They didn't. The Media doesnt get to pick who the leaders are neither. >You can personnally cry and cry that they were not leaders of the movement, but never has Tamara Lich publically denounced James Bauder, or denied her desire to overthrow the government. I provided CBC who clearly never listed James Bauder as a protest leader. Never did Tamara Lich ever call for overthrow of the government. You want to think the media gets to choose some random protester, say he is leader and then use them? > She never went on record denouncing his involvement in any leadership position. She doesnt need to. That's a ridiculous requirement. >Letting someone in a protest you supposedely organize run around and demand the overthrow of the government is a thing that happens all the time; it's common. Perfect! In future... the media gets to pick who the leader of all protests are. Not the protest itself. Did you meet John Smith the ecoterrorist who wishes to destroy Canada? Every future protest = illegal now. >Whenever that person has the limelight on them, you vigorously denounce them and deny any sort of leadership on their part. Failure to do so means you agree. Great, going forward all left-wing protests will have John Smith the ecoterrorist speaking for them. >Ultimately, this whole convoy was dangerously inept. That's a thing. You can be so clueless, so reckless that you're a danger to others. How dare they so recklessly exercise their right to protest!
- philistine 5y ago
  Your whole house of cards rest on the idea that I have to agree that James Bauder was never a leader of the movement. When James Bauder said he was a leader of the movement. When many news outlet identified him as a leader of the movement. When many protesters identified him as a leader of the movement. And Tamara Lich never denounced him or any of his formal requests to the Governor General. Reality doesn't care about your feelings about James Bauder.
  - incomingpain 5y ago
    >Your whole house of cards rest on the idea that I have to agree that James Bauder was never a leader of the movement. Does it matter if you agree or disagree with this? I provided a cbc link that listed the leaders. Bauder was not among them. Why do you think the CBC didn't even list bauder? In fact, im just doing a search right now... there's no articles on cbc at all listing bauder as anything at all. Which is in fact impossible because I recall reading about bauder, the mou, and how they plan to overthrow the government on the cbc amongst others. It would seem the CBC quietly deleted those articles. >When James Bauder said he was a leader of the movement. Did you know I am the leader of BLM? >hen many news outlet identified him as a leader of the movement. When many protesters identified him as a leader of the movement. And Tamara Lich never denounced him or any of his formal requests to the Governor General. Why indeed has BLM never denounced me, John Smith the ecoterrorist. Is it by chance Bauder and I were just never a leader. That media smears were ignored by the real leadership? Politically unaligned media don't get to pick the leaders of a protest. >Reality doesn't care about your feelings about James Bauder. I know why you cling to Bauder so much when clearly he's not a real entity. Without this tremendously weak point... you literally have nothing else to say the protest were 'overthrowing the government'. Without this tenuous at best point, how do you ever justify a national emergency. Ultimately it doesnt even matter. They were parked outfront parliament for weeks and never quite got around to insurrection. The entire narrative that they were trying to overthrow the government is without merit. Reality is on my side.

incomingpain 5y ago

>We were not discussing whether the protest was peaceful or not; Excellent, you cede that they were peaceful and therefore their charter rights were violated. >we are discussing whether or not self-evident leaders of the movement wanted a coup. They didn't. The Media doesnt get to pick who the leaders are neither. >You can personnally cry and cry that they were not leaders of the movement, but never has Tamara Lich publically denounced James Bauder, or denied her desire to overthrow the government. I provided CBC who clearly never listed James Bauder as a protest leader. Never did Tamara Lich ever call for overthrow of the government. You want to think the media gets to choose some random protester, say he is leader and then use them? > She never went on record denouncing his involvement in any leadership position. She doesnt need to. That's a ridiculous requirement. >Letting someone in a protest you supposedely organize run around and demand the overthrow of the government is a thing that happens all the time; it's common. Perfect! In future... the media gets to pick who the leader of all protests are. Not the protest itself. Did you meet John Smith the ecoterrorist who wishes to destroy Canada? Every future protest = illegal now. >Whenever that person has the limelight on them, you vigorously denounce them and deny any sort of leadership on their part. Failure to do so means you agree. Great, going forward all left-wing protests will have John Smith the ecoterrorist speaking for them. >Ultimately, this whole convoy was dangerously inept. That's a thing. You can be so clueless, so reckless that you're a danger to others. How dare they so recklessly exercise their right to protest!

philistine 5y ago
Your whole house of cards rest on the idea that I have to agree that James Bauder was never a leader of the movement. When James Bauder said he was a leader of the movement. When many news outlet identified him as a leader of the movement. When many protesters identified him as a leader of the movement. And Tamara Lich never denounced him or any of his formal requests to the Governor General. Reality doesn't care about your feelings about James Bauder.
- incomingpain 5y ago
  >Your whole house of cards rest on the idea that I have to agree that James Bauder was never a leader of the movement. Does it matter if you agree or disagree with this? I provided a cbc link that listed the leaders. Bauder was not among them. Why do you think the CBC didn't even list bauder? In fact, im just doing a search right now... there's no articles on cbc at all listing bauder as anything at all. Which is in fact impossible because I recall reading about bauder, the mou, and how they plan to overthrow the government on the cbc amongst others. It would seem the CBC quietly deleted those articles. >When James Bauder said he was a leader of the movement. Did you know I am the leader of BLM? >hen many news outlet identified him as a leader of the movement. When many protesters identified him as a leader of the movement. And Tamara Lich never denounced him or any of his formal requests to the Governor General. Why indeed has BLM never denounced me, John Smith the ecoterrorist. Is it by chance Bauder and I were just never a leader. That media smears were ignored by the real leadership? Politically unaligned media don't get to pick the leaders of a protest. >Reality doesn't care about your feelings about James Bauder. I know why you cling to Bauder so much when clearly he's not a real entity. Without this tremendously weak point... you literally have nothing else to say the protest were 'overthrowing the government'. Without this tenuous at best point, how do you ever justify a national emergency. Ultimately it doesnt even matter. They were parked outfront parliament for weeks and never quite got around to insurrection. The entire narrative that they were trying to overthrow the government is without merit. Reality is on my side.