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> I want to use the word "ignorant" His dig at the end that "America doesn't want to end segregation" suggests that he's more than just ignorant here. Race ha

> I want to use the word "ignorant" His dig at the end that "America doesn't want to end segregation" suggests that he's more than just ignorant here. Race hasn't been used in a segregatory way in America in 70 years. Now it's used as a wedge to push unpopular socialist policies.

prmoustache 5y ago
Don't tell me a large part of the population, especially in the southern states, would not still agree with segregation if they were allowed to. And yes segregation still exist in modern american society: https://www.epi.org/publication/modern-segregation/ https://www.epi.org/publication/modern-segregation/ https://ideas.darden.virginia.edu/segregation-in-2020 https://ideas.darden.virginia.edu/segregation-in-2020 https://www.salon.com/2021/06/26/modern-day-segregation-in-hospitals-is-killing-black-patients/ https://www.salon.com/2021/06/26/modern-day-segregation-in-h... https://www.diversityinc.com/what-does-segregation-look-like-today/ https://www.diversityinc.com/what-does-segregation-look-like... https://www.studyfinds.org/white-flight-segregation/ https://www.studyfinds.org/white-flight-segregation/
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  Define "a large part." Are we talking linear numbers? The US has a population of 350 million people, 3.5 million is still only 1%. Would you say that the percentage of French ethno nationalists is above 1% of the population? What about percentages? I challenge you to find anything showing a double digit percentage of Americans that would like segregation. You have a very uninformed and derogatory view of a certain segment of the US population, and your view of southerners in particular is very stereotypical and not rooted in fact.
  - prmoustache 5y ago
    >Would you say that the percentage of French ethno nationalists is above 1% of the population? Sadly I would say yes.
    - betwixthewires 5y ago
      So then what makes you think that the US has some penchant for racism that is lacking in enlightened Europe? European society seems largely free of it even with them, might that be the case in the US also?
      - prmoustache 5y ago
        I never said Europe was more enlightened or superior. I merely said USA is still using the concept of race and it is mostly cultural due to its history. Which means racism/discrimination issues are treated under a vastly different pane of glass. And yes it is fucked up but racism/xenophobia is a global problem. I never said europe fared better but it seems like mentionning US as a european triggered something that make US people think their country is under attack and they should just enter into negationism mode. Calm down, it is not a US vs Europe thing. More an ackniwledgement that different cultures react differently based on their history.
        betwixthewires 5y ago
        I'm not responding defensively in support of the US, I'm only engaging in a genuine discussion of your criticisms.
ZeroGravitas 5y ago
What happened in 1952 that you're referring to as the end of race segregation in America? That was only the start of Brown vs Board of education and mixed marraiges were illegal until Loving vs Virgina in 1967 and the couple at the center of that case were jailed for a year in 1958 for getting married! > "Virginia had argued that its law was not a violation of the Equal Protection Clause because the punishment was the same regardless of the offender's race, and thus it "equally burdened" both whites and non-whites"

prmoustache 5y ago

Don't tell me a large part of the population, especially in the southern states, would not still agree with segregation if they were allowed to. And yes segregation still exist in modern american society: https://www.epi.org/publication/modern-segregation/ https://www.epi.org/publication/modern-segregation/ https://ideas.darden.virginia.edu/segregation-in-2020 https://ideas.darden.virginia.edu/segregation-in-2020 https://www.salon.com/2021/06/26/modern-day-segregation-in-hospitals-is-killing-black-patients/ https://www.salon.com/2021/06/26/modern-day-segregation-in-h... https://www.diversityinc.com/what-does-segregation-look-like-today/ https://www.diversityinc.com/what-does-segregation-look-like... https://www.studyfinds.org/white-flight-segregation/ https://www.studyfinds.org/white-flight-segregation/

betwixthewires 5y ago
Define "a large part." Are we talking linear numbers? The US has a population of 350 million people, 3.5 million is still only 1%. Would you say that the percentage of French ethno nationalists is above 1% of the population? What about percentages? I challenge you to find anything showing a double digit percentage of Americans that would like segregation. You have a very uninformed and derogatory view of a certain segment of the US population, and your view of southerners in particular is very stereotypical and not rooted in fact.
- prmoustache 5y ago
  >Would you say that the percentage of French ethno nationalists is above 1% of the population? Sadly I would say yes.
  - betwixthewires 5y ago
    So then what makes you think that the US has some penchant for racism that is lacking in enlightened Europe? European society seems largely free of it even with them, might that be the case in the US also?
    - prmoustache 5y ago
      I never said Europe was more enlightened or superior. I merely said USA is still using the concept of race and it is mostly cultural due to its history. Which means racism/discrimination issues are treated under a vastly different pane of glass. And yes it is fucked up but racism/xenophobia is a global problem. I never said europe fared better but it seems like mentionning US as a european triggered something that make US people think their country is under attack and they should just enter into negationism mode. Calm down, it is not a US vs Europe thing. More an ackniwledgement that different cultures react differently based on their history.
      - betwixthewires 5y ago
        I'm not responding defensively in support of the US, I'm only engaging in a genuine discussion of your criticisms.

ZeroGravitas 5y ago

What happened in 1952 that you're referring to as the end of race segregation in America? That was only the start of Brown vs Board of education and mixed marraiges were illegal until Loving vs Virgina in 1967 and the couple at the center of that case were jailed for a year in 1958 for getting married! > "Virginia had argued that its law was not a violation of the Equal Protection Clause because the punishment was the same regardless of the offender's race, and thus it "equally burdened" both whites and non-whites"