> the obvious implied suggestion is that these types of vulnerabilities don't exist in commonly used closed-source systems I never implied that, obviously or n

> the obvious implied suggestion is that these types of vulnerabilities don't exist in commonly used closed-source systems I never implied that, obviously or not. > Secondly, commercial vendors have seen fit to adopt opensource where it suits them in order to take advantage of Commercial vendors adopted opensource due to lower cost of ownership, not due to perceived lack of problems or because "community knows exactly what is what"