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This has been discussed ad nauseum. The client side code isn’t looking at your files, it’s looking for a signature. If you don’t have the signature, it won’t d

This has been discussed ad nauseum. The client side code isn’t looking at your files, it’s looking for a signature. If you don’t have the signature, it won’t do anything. I’m a privacy advocate, and this approach actually increased my trust as it was a more palatable option than allowing unfettered server side access in response to LEO requests (which happens in extreme cases, but not on a routine basis.)

sneak 5y ago
Signature scanning of my private files without consent, as well as any potential subsequent reporting to law enforcement, are both human rights violations, if you believe what Apple claims to: that "privacy is a human right". Privacy includes privacy to break the law until and unless specific probable cause is established in a court. Companies have no moral or legal obligation to get involved in mass scanning to enable proactive law enforcement. "But the children!" does not make this not a privacy violation. Signatures don't make this not a privacy violation. The system is also ripe for abuse. What happens when the legislature mandates a regulatory body be able to set policy to amend the signature list? You do not want to live in the world this creates. This is not about child safety. Think more along the lines of Tiananmen Tank Man.
- lupire 5y ago
  It was never set to do anything without consent for private files, only for files you give to iCloud for storage.
  - sneak 5y ago
    Apple already scans all photos uploaded to iCloud, as they are not end to end encrypted and are viewable by Apple. This has been going on for ages and is not what is being discussed. The topic is local scanning on an end user device without the consent of the device owner. Clientside scanning of files given over to the cloud is nonsensical. Apple already scans serverside.

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This has been discussed ad nauseum. The client side code isn’t looking at your files, it’s looking for a signature. If you don’t have the signature, it won’t d

by greggsy 5y ago

sneak 5y ago
Signature scanning of my private files without consent, as well as any potential subsequent reporting to law enforcement, are both human rights violations, if you believe what Apple claims to: that "privacy is a human right". Privacy includes privacy to break the law until and unless specific probable cause is established in a court. Companies have no moral or legal obligation to get involved in mass scanning to enable proactive law enforcement. "But the children!" does not make this not a privacy violation. Signatures don't make this not a privacy violation. The system is also ripe for abuse. What happens when the legislature mandates a regulatory body be able to set policy to amend the signature list? You do not want to live in the world this creates. This is not about child safety. Think more along the lines of Tiananmen Tank Man.
- lupire 5y ago
  It was never set to do anything without consent for private files, only for files you give to iCloud for storage.
  - sneak 5y ago
    Apple already scans all photos uploaded to iCloud, as they are not end to end encrypted and are viewable by Apple. This has been going on for ages and is not what is being discussed. The topic is local scanning on an end user device without the consent of the device owner. Clientside scanning of files given over to the cloud is nonsensical. Apple already scans serverside.